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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Let's assume Edo period Japan had its Earth overshoot day late December. By quadrupling the population as of today this alone pushes this forward to late March. But the rate of consumption in modern Japan is much higher. At a guess, by more than an order of magnitude. So it's probably in the first week of January. And the ecosystem carrying capacity, particularly the sea, is considerably degraded relatively to the Edo period. So this would make Edo-technology semisustainable population significantly smaller.