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[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How does guaranteeing jobs make people any less replaceable

Because there's constantly a labor shortage instead of a pool of millions of unemployed people

Also we have a crises of bs jobs. UBI would help lower it a lot. Guaranteed jobs would make it ten times worse

Why would guaranteed jobs make it worse? Guaranteed jobs could be decided upon (at the very least partially) by local neighborhood councils. Care for children and for old people, cleaning the streets, building new housing... Even if 50% of jobs created were "redundant" (which is impossible), that's still 50% of actual useful labor compared to 0% of UBI

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're just describing communism at this point. We're looking for practical solutions

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Practical solutions like the ones we've been failing to implement for the past 50 years of erosion of labor rights and welfare state all over the western world?

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

UBI hasn't been tried on large scale anywhere. In small scales it's been successful

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Exactly my point, it hasn't been implemented anywhere because capital will fight tooth and nail against it, and they're, well, the owning class, so they have plenty of power. My point is we can't reform our way into solving social and economic justice and fixing climate change