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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (15 children)

To summarize recent events:

  1. It is likely going to be a governor, meaning PA's Shapiro, Minnesota's Walz, or KY's Beshear.
  2. Next Tuesday, Kamala Harris will campaign in Philadelphia with her VP selection, probably less than 10 miles from Shapiro's home in the suburbs. She will also head to Arizona, suggesting either Shapiro or Kelly could be frontrunners
  3. Kelly plans on being in Arizona next week anyway, although I haven't heard an outright denial about him traveling to PA
  4. Whitmer came to suburban Philly on Monday to campaign with Shapiro.

I would be shocked if she isn't picking Shapiro

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I think Shapiro is the most obvious pick, but also not the most strategic. His position on Gaza and Israel don't help her where she needs it the most. She is going to have to wrangle NC and GA on her own. Her VP and surrogates are going to need to get upper midwest (game is over without those) and PA. Mark Kelley ain't delivering AZ, and Beshear aint delivering Kentucky, so they're out

That leaves it between Walz and Shapiro. I think objectively Walz is better for her across the board. He's a stronger progressive and he puts WI, MI, and MN completely out of the running for Republicans to get, but he needs to be able to be "on the right side" of Israel/ Palestine to do so and it says: Undecided, we heard you. Shapiro has been on the wrong side the whole time; it would be a harder pivot and he has to come out full throated to take MN and WI off the table and make MI competitive again. Its not clear to me Shapiro does that.

Lets assume its a trade off. If you go Shapiro you lock up PA, if you go Walz you lock up MN, MI, and WI. If you go Shapiro and don't step left on Israel Gaza, you don't get the upper midwest and it doesn't matter if you don't pickup PA. Thats two additional if's on the board for Shapiro. Walz is already on the winning side of Israel Gaza, so that makes the job of getting those states much easier. Basically, you' can't suffer any defections under a Shapiro scenario. I think Walz is the more strategic, smarter bet, but I also think its the one they won't make.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

As an anyone but Trump independent conservative in one of the states you stated, who is Walz and why would it make people in my state vote for Harris more than Harris already does? I didn’t like Biden and I don’t like Harris, but Harris is doing better than I ever thought possible. I really don’t see what a VP could do for her as far as my state goes. I think Harris is the selling point herself

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Here's a recent and surprisingly short opinion piece I happened upon that sells him pretty well.

It's a Newsweek on MSN horror show website, so I went ahead and archived it.

https://archive.ph/nxuKi

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