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[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If I believed that Israel was a genocidal "regime" (by which you mean democratic government) I wouldn't be defending it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you're willing to link to the blood libel Wikipedia page but you deny the existence of this genocide. I guess "Never Again" had an asterisk?

[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let me give you the full sentence:

"Never again will the Jewish people put their safety and security in the hands of non-Jews."

Non-Jews were given a test with the Holocaust and we comprehensively failed.

From now on, the Jewish people will only ever trust themselves to protect them. Rightly so, in my view.

And yes, I do deny there's a genocide in Gaza. If they wanted to just eradicate them then this war would have been over many months ago.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah you're going to need to source that. Never Again is a slogan referring to the Holocaust. At best some people say it means just for Jews, but I think we can all agree genocide is bad, right?

[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think we can all agree that the Jews and only the Jews have the right to determine what that phrase, which they coined, meant to them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

By which you must mean only the super hardcore Zionists right? Because I'm pretty sure these guys disagree with your definition. Pretty sure Stefanie disagrees. Oh look, more disagreement.

Cherry picking hardliner writing to try and coopt a common phrase isn't very cool. Especially if you're using it to deny a genocide.