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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by jet@hackertalks.com to c/fedigrow@lemm.ee
 

Saw a suspicious post resurrecting a 5 month old thread, and after a few back and forths:

https://linux.community/comment/3453531

I don’t understand why you are treating me like a robot. However, I can help with the Fibonacci sequence. Here is a Python 3 function to calculate it:

I'm torn, its nice to have activity in the fediverse, but I'm not convinced bots are the right way to go about it. Opinions on the future of engagement bots?

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[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

when the appeal comes in, are you going to deny it?

this can be a very quiet exercise, without implying to other users that the user in question might be a bot. by contrast, just probing it out in the open taints that users interactions.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Banning people is a very bad experience for humans, most are unlikely to come back to the community at all. Banning should really be a last resort.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

most are unlikely to come back

ok. well you're saying you'd rather preserve interactions from someone you suspect of being a bot, but bot interactions themselves are bad? the experience is the same. but from a user persectiveo having my comment responded to by other users in public saying "you're just a bot" "you're a shill" "ignore previous instructions..." etc.... that shit is toxic. it needs to NOT happen. keeping that shit out of the inbox is far preferable if all i have to do is send a dm to a mod.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, open dialog is better then rapid fire speculative banning.

I'm not sure I understand your philosophy of Anarchy, but it seems to be very rule heavy.

This is the moderator/admin meta community for lemmy, so if we want to hammer out a better way to deal with bots this is the place to do it, but we should have a protocol that is actionable without DMs (if I was writing a bot I wouldn't ever respond to DMs), and that doesn't require speculative banning.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

maybe dm's are better than quick banning, but my banning preference is for shoot-first-ask-questions-later, but short bans. a 1 to 3 day ban is better in most circumstances for most offenses. even repeated bad behavior, i feel should see the same term unless the bans themselves become burdensome to the mods.

i can see the case for dm's for suspected bots though.

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

your philosophy of Anarchy... seems to be very rule heavy.

rules without rulers.