Yes this is a Telegram client and yes it will break the Lemmy's downvote world record but I still find this one very nice and "actively" maintained. There are not many good Telegram FOSS forks without Google integrations and similar stuff out there.

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[–] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (12 children)

do any of these forks support E2EE? I don't mean the OG "private chat" thingy that Telegram supports.

I mean like an add-on, the way pidgin had an OTR plugin that enabled private comms over Google's unencrypted XMPP servers.

as a consequence, that would also encrypt everything in the cloud and prevent your chat history being ingested for LLM training and whatnot.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That would require the other user to use the same app as you right? Could be interesting.

[–] wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At that point why not use a different app that supports E2EE natively?

[–] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

because Telegram's UI/UX is second to none; possibly iMessage or whatever it's called is close, albeit with way limited functionality. Signal and friends look like a PoC from 2015 in comparison. also the apps, on mobile and on desktop, have a low memory footprint with no bloated electron crap, the cross-device sync is phenomenal and there's the virtually unlimited cloud storage. if an addon could piggyback off of that, that would be spectacular.

however, OP's insight as to this being against ToS is obviously a deal breaker. seeing as how they're adamant about leaving all your shit unencrypted in the cloud I'm looking for other havens, begrudgingly; I've been a user from the early days.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The options are basically:

Matrix if you want a Discord-like experience

XMPP if you want a whatsapp/google talk like experience (both of those are based on XMPP)

Signal if you want hyper-secure chat and don't mind some mild inconveniences in things like registration or desktop apps.

All three support or can support E2EE.

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