To me, a Linux user, Apple is more of a jail or a pusher. I don't want to use it because of lock in. Oh, you have an iPod? It's much better with a Mac. An iPhone? All your friends should also have it, and now we have this special app you can only use properly with other apple users.

No thanks.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The funny thing about apple is just how far they've moved away from Jobs' "vision".

It was clearly evident when they released the Apple Pencil. Jobs hated Stylus'. one of the reasons he killed the newton, and a reason why the iphone/ipad never originally had one as he was quoted as saying "why would I need a stylus? I have 5 of them on my hand"

I mean Apple is like a cult that worship a dead god who would burn current Apple to the ground and start over if he came back.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Steve jobs also hated keyboards, or at least all the F1-12 keys because "nobody needs them"

About the "5 stylus on my hand", it really feels like he only ever cared about the lowest common denominator when it came to usability and function. Yes, you have 5 fingers, but to this day fingers lack precision on touch screens, while a pencil stylus is as precise as it can get.

[–] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

The function keys allow you to access extra features or shortcuts in programs that most people don't ever use or don't know might make them slightly quicker if they use the program a lot.

Steve Jobs only seemed to believe in supporting input methods he thought seemed most convenient for most people. Anything else was needlessly complicated and a waste of space. Some of his ideas about that come across as unusual, especially when things like space aren't as limited.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Jobs also believed that 3.5" was the perfect touchscreen size for the human hand, neglecting the fact that (a) the human hand size varies drastically and (b) people are willing to trade ergonomic perfection for more screen estate because it's more usable that way.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I always thought the Nintendo DS Lite looked like something Apple manufactured.

Now that I think about it, it's kinda ironic because Steve Jobs hates the stylus.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apple looks more like a cult, similar to Scientology. Linux user as well.

[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Linux is a cult with an exit, apple is a cult that most don't acknowledge as a cult and there's no real exit

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well... cults with an exit are just groups of people.

[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, Linux is mostly just a bunch of passionate people

[–] palordrolap@kbin.run 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Was going to say that I don't have the energy to be passionate about anything these days, but then I realised I'm quite happy - almost passionate, you might say - to turn that dispassion towards large organisations like Microsoft.

Buy our products!

"No."

[–] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Main reason I started using Linux on my computers a few years ago. I also learned some shocking things about privacy that made me wanna switch. Linux runs most stuff someone not in another weird niche could ever want nowadays anyway.