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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by dessalines@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

We're adding the ability to customize this in the upcoming release, but I'm wondering what people think would be a good default.

The 4 pieces of showable/hideable info are: Upvotes, Downvotes, Score, and Upvote %.

In Jerboa, I had a temporary default (until the next lemmy release), of Score + Upvote %, but people seem to dislike this a lot.

I'll check back on this in a few days to see the result.

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Is it maybe planned to be able to set a custom tag for a community instead of one pulled from the url? I reckon there are many communities where this would make more sense.

Like the community i am moderating is c/bicycle_touring, but i think #biketouring and #bikepacking are the hashtags that are being used on mastodon for this stuff.

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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

EDIT: Looked a little deeper/better on GitHub and found this issue, #4865 which is likely the most related issue, and it seems the devs are aware.

It also seems to be a recent v19.5 -ish issue too from some of the comments there


I seem to be encountering what may be a bug with pinning/featuring posts ... interested if anyone's got similar/counter experiences

The issue is that the pinning of a post doesn't get federated correctly.

The conditions, AFAICT are:

  • Post originates from a "federated instance" (IE, an instance other than the community's home instance)
  • The mod action of pinning is also done by a moderator on a "federated instance"
  • Lemmy versions 19.4 or greater (much more tentative, but from a brief perusal, it seems true)

The effect seems to be:

  • The pinning works fine on the "home instance" of the community
  • But federation breaks in two slightly different ways:
    • No pinning occurs
    • If a mod on a "federated instance" tries to pin, after an initially failed federation of "pinning", it will succeed on the federated instance only temporarily

The last dynamic is hopefully a clue to what could be happening (sounds like some queued tasks colliding in an incorrect way)

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I input my password.

It refuses to log me in. Says 'Passwords must be between 10 and 60 characters'

I delete the last few characters. Now it lets me log in.

no bueno

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So yesterday I was posting up a storm, posts that would've gone down as the best posts of all time! But randomly my home instance reset and the posts and replies I made in the ten minutes before, all got orphaned. They're still there, but replies to them don't get sent to me. Anyway, it's one of those edge cases that no one would likely ever face again, but thought I'd share.

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is there a particular third party app that's useful? or should it all be handled from a desktop website

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Reposted from: https://lemmings.world/post/10530999

Please what are the easiest and fastest steps in order to find backup of a currently unavailable post thanks to no longer running Lemmy instance?

Lets say it is this post we are reading, that become offline. I am not asking for the links to instances that hosts it, but for the way on how to discover all the instances myself.

So far I have found only this way:

  1. open largest instances list: https://lemmyverse.net/?order=posts&open=true
  2. open one after another and under magnifier button, search for the same post ID (number) as your dead link has
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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by dessalines@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

What is Lemmy?

Lemmy is a self-hosted social link aggregation and discussion platform. It is completely free and open, and not controlled by any company. This means that there is no advertising, tracking, or secret algorithms. Content is organized into communities, so it is easy to subscribe to topics that you are interested in, and ignore others. Voting is used to bring the most interesting items to the top.

Changes

This is a smaller bugfix release, with the following changes:

Lemmy

Lemmy-UI

Full Changelog

Upgrade instructions

Follow the upgrade instructions for ansible or docker.

If you need help with the upgrade, you can ask in our support forum or on the Matrix Chat.

Thanks to everyone

We'd like to thank our many contributors and users of Lemmy for coding, translating, testing, and helping find and fix bugs. We're glad many people find it useful and enjoyable enough to contribute.

Support development

We (@dessalines and @nutomic) have been working full-time on Lemmy for over three years. This is largely thanks to support from NLnet foundation, as well as donations from individual users.

If you like using Lemmy, and want to make sure that we will always be available to work full time building it, consider donating to support its development. A recurring donation is the best way to ensure that open-source software like Lemmy can stay independent and alive, and helps us grow our little developer co-op to support more full-time developers.

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Is it possible to make upvotes/downvotes on my own posts (and comments on my posts) visible, while making everyone else's invisible on the Lemmy website? I like making upvotes & downvotes invisible, because it makes it harder for me to be biased on what I upvote or downvote, based on the amount of upvotes/downvotes posts/comments already have from others. But on the other hand, I would still like to see how many upvotes & downvotes my own posts have, and how many upvotes & downvotes the comments below my post have. Thanks.

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In my profile it says my cake day is today (June 13), but it was displaying a cake icon on my comments all day yesterday (June 12).

The icon was a black and white outline so I thought maybe it was showing it the day before on purpose so other people would see ahead of time, and that it would turn colorful on the actual day. But then midnight hit and it disappeared, so it must be a bug instead.

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What is Lemmy?

Lemmy is a self-hosted social link aggregation and discussion platform. It is completely free and open, and not controlled by any company. This means that there is no advertising, tracking, or secret algorithms. Content is organized into communities, so it is easy to subscribe to topics that you are interested in, and ignore others. Voting is used to bring the most interesting items to the top.

Major Changes

This v0.19.4 release is a big one, with > 200 pull requests merged since v0.19.3. As such we can only give a general overview of the major changes in this post, and without going into detail. For more information, read the full changelogs at the bottom of this post.

Local Only Communities

Communities have a new visibility setting, which can be either Public (current behaviour) or LocalOnly. The latter means that the community won't federate, and can only be viewed by users who are logged in to the local instance. This can be useful for meta communities discussing moderation policies of the local instance, where outside users shouldn't be able to participate. It is also a first step towards implementing private communities. Local only communities still need more testing and should be considered experimental for now.

Image Proxying

There is a new config option called image_mode which provides a way to proxy external image links through the local instance. This prevents deanonymization attacks where an attacker uploads an image to his own server, embeds it in a Lemmy post and watches the IPs which load the image.

Instead if image_mode is set to ProxyAllImages, image urls are rewritten to be proxied through /api/v3/image_proxy. This can also improve performance and avoid overloading other websites. The setting works by rewriting links in new posts, comments and other places when they are inserted in the database. This means the setting has no effect on posts created before the setting was activated. And after disabling the setting, existing images will continue to be proxied. It should also be considered experimental.

Many thanks to @asonix for adding this functionality to pict-rs v0.5.

Post hiding

You can now hide a post as a dropdown option, and there is a new toggle to filter hidden posts in lemmy-ui. Apps can use the new show_hidden field on GetPosts to enable this.

Moderation enhancements

With the URL blocklist admins can prevent users from linking to specific sites.

Admins and mods can now view the report history and moderation history for a given post or comment.

The functionality to resolve reports automatically when a post is removed was previously broken and is now fixed. Additionally, reports for already removed items are now ignored.

The site.content_warning setting lets admins show a message to users before rendering any content. If it is active, nsfw posts can be viewed without login.

Mods and admins can now comment in locked posts.

Mods and admins can also use external tools such as LemmyAutomod for more advanced tools.

Media

There is a new functionality for users to list all images they have previously uploaded, and delete them if desired. It also allows admins to view and delete images hosted on the local instance.

When uploading a new avatar or banner, the old one is automatically deleted.

Instance admins should also checkout lemmy-thumbnail-cleaner which can delete thumbnails for old posts, and free significant amounts of storage.

Federation

Lemmy can now federate with Wordpress, Discourse and NodeBB. So far there was only minor testing and these projects are still under heavy development. If you encounter any issues federating with these platforms, open an issue either in the Lemmy repo or in the respective project's issue tracker. You can test it by fetching the following posts:

In order to improve interoperability with Mastodon and other microblogging platforms, Lemmy now automatically includes a hashtag with new posts. The hashtag is based on the community name, so posts to /c/lemmy will automatically have the hashtag #lemmy. This makes Lemmy posts much easier to discover.

Reliability and security of federation have been improved, and numerous bugs squashed. Signed fetch was broken and is fixed now.

Vote display user setting

There is now a user setting to change the way vote counts are displayed, called vote display mode.

You can specify which of the following vote data you'd like to see (or hide): Upvotes, Downvotes, Score, Upvote Percentage, or none of the above. The default (based on user feedback) is showing the upvotes + downvotes.

App developers will need to update their apps to support this setting.

RSS Feeds

RSS feeds now include post thumbnail and embedded images.

Security Audit

A security audit was recently performed on Lemmy. Big thanks to Radically Open Security for the generous funding, and to Sabrina Deibe and Joe Neeman for carrying out the audit. The focus was on federation logic, and discovered various problems in this area. Most of the problems are being mitigated as part of this release. Fortunately no critical security vulnerabilities were discovered.

This is already the third security audit of Lemmy, all organized by ROS. We're greatly indebted to them for their support.

Other Changes

Full Changelog

Upgrade instructions

Warning: This version requires both a Postgres and Pictrs version upgrade, which requires manual intervention.

Follow the upgrade instructions for ansible or docker.

If you need help with the upgrade, you can ask in our support forum or on the Matrix Chat.

Thanks to everyone

We'd like to thank our many contributors and users of Lemmy for coding, translating, testing, and helping find and fix bugs. We're glad many people find it useful and enjoyable enough to contribute.

Special thanks goes to Radically Open Security, @sleepless and @matc-pub for their work on lemmy-ui and lemmy-ui-leptos, @dullbananas for their help cleaning up the back-end, DB, and reviewing PRs, @phiresky for federation work, @MV-GH for their work on Jerboa and API suggestions, @asonix for developing pictrs, @ticoombs and @codyro for helping maintain lemmy-ansible, @kroese, @povoq, @flamingo-cant-draw, @aeharding, @Nothing4U, @db0, @MrKaplan, for helping with issues and troubleshooting, and too many more to count.

Support development

We (@dessalines and @nutomic) have been working full-time on Lemmy for over three years. This is largely thanks to support from NLnet foundation, as well as donations from individual users.

If you like using Lemmy, and want to make sure that we will always be available to work full time building it, consider donating to support its development. A recurring donation is the best way to ensure that open-source software like Lemmy can stay independent and alive, and helps us grow our little developer co-op to support more full-time developers.

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This is just to followup from my prior post on latencies increasing with increasing uptime (see here).

There was a recent update to lemmy.ml (to 0.19.4-rc.2) ... and everything is so much snappier. AFAICT, there isn't any obvious reason for this in the update itself(?) ... so it'd be a good bet that there's some memory leak or something that slows down some of the actions over time.

Also ... interesting update ... I didn't pick up that there'd be some web-UI additions and they seem nice!

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I'm really confused here. I was kind of freaking out for 10 minutes because all the posts on my Lemmy account on the lemm.ee instance from the last 7 months completely vanished out of thin air on my profile.

Than I loaded my profile page (this account) on my new account which I just created on lemmy.ml, and the posts all appear to still be there. So I'm confused, why is it that others can see my posts, but I cannot? If you're reading this, can you check my profile and see if the posts appear for me please? The last post should be 5 days ago.

There's only two things I can think of that might have bugged Lemmy out:

  1. I was playing around in the settings earlier, and clicked the "Bot Account" checkbox; but I can't see how this would glitch anything, because I didn't click "Save".
  2. The profile I'm posting this on is on lemm.ee. My newly created profile is on lemmy.ml and has the exact same username (DreitonLullaby) as this one; but I'm not sure how this would cause issues, because they are on two completely separate instances.

That's all I can think of. Is this a known bug? How can I fix this?

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15109471

This is a feature that as far as i know lemmy does not have, so it might be worth it to checkout and support piefed, it will probably be useful if there are certain topics that are really relevant to you and you want to develop in depth knowledge of.

Could this be implemented in Lemmy as well?

I have wanted this feature for some time now, and it seems like there is decent user interest:

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Hi. So when I'm watching a tv show or movie, and it hits me in the feels, I will think something like "Oh, this movie is wholesome, or this tv show is wholesome" Even if it has swearing in it, as long as the message is a good one. I've been on Lemmy now a couple days, and I rate lemmy super-duper wholesome. Maybe it was the question/thread I asked, but the responses I got were very nice. Lots of people love to cuddle dogs as self-care and by golly, that's just as wholesome as it gets.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by zabadoh@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 
 

User count has plateaued at about 420K

Active user count rose significantly between 2/24 37K to 3/24 51K

Hopefully users who signed up last year are coming back to use their accounts.

Maybe because they're tired of ads on reddit?

Should we put together a collection and and buy an ad campaign on Reddit?

I can see it now:

"Ads suck. We're ad-free forever. Join Lemmy."

and

"He'll never get us. Join Lemmy." or "Don't let him get you. Join Lemmy"

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!generative@lemmy.ml

Technically it's not new, but practically speaking it's had 2 posts ever, with the last being 8 months ago.

You may also know it as "creative coding" or the like, but it's not limited to coding.

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From https://fediverse.observer/stats

Which seems to not at all come close to representing what you might actually see on Lemmy, not that Lemmy is tiny either.

Has there been any attempt to measure the total active Lemmy userbase? This would depend on the definition of Active but any working definition would be more useful than counting account creation. Something like "posted at least once this quarter".

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Didn't actually know where to post it otherwise. Spelling is almost correct...

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Finished up a recap site for lemmy similar to the recaps other sites like spotify, etc. have been doing!

Shows things like how many posts youve made, how many comments, your top posts of the year, the top communities you participate in, etc.

Theres a little role it assigns you and an image at the bottom that can be easily shared into the thread

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tl;dr: to reduce federation api calls and to reduce issues with defederation, maybe some instances should only be for communities with no user signups, and some instances should be only for user signups with no communities (you would have to make a post or PM to request the admin to make a community for you)

cross-posted from: https://fanaticus.social/post/265339

DRAFT Work in Progress - Updates will be noted in the comments.

I find I have been a bit repetitive in different threads talking about Lemmy / Kbin (collectively, the Threadiverse), so I thought I would put my thoughts together in one place where I can cover it in detail, and revise my thoughts as they evolve. So, here it is...

The Problems

Why can't we merge / sync all the communities with the same name?

This illustrates a fundamental misunderstanding of how Lemmy and ActivityPub work. It implies that local communities are somehow better than federated communities, and that synchronizing different communities would somehow be better / more efficient than just subscribing to the federated community. That's just plain wrong.

Once a community is federated, accessing and interacting with the community is exactly the same as for a local community. The content is exactly the same, and changes are automatically shared among subscribing servers.

The real problem is every instance wanting to be the instance for Reddit knock-off communities. I won't deny that there are significant financial and ego reasons why admins want to accomplish this end. However, this is not the best approach for Lemmy.

The admins of my instance are doing bad things!

Folks, admins need to admin. Each instance is going to have its own policies driven by their personal values and by the legalities of where the server is hosted.

I want to host an instance, but the storage & network requirements are too high

This is a genuine concern - there are two things fundamental to Lemmy that cause this:

  1. Each instance needs to keep a complete copy of every community that any user on the instance subscribes to. The storage overhead per user is especially high on instances with not a lot of users.
  2. Each community has to share its changes with every instance that has subscribed to it. So when a user on instance A makes a post to a community on instance B, A sends that info to B, then B must send a copy of that post to every other instance with subscribers.

The Solution

Communities

Communities should be spread out across multiple instances, with a small number of like-minded communities on each instance. An example of something like this this would be Discord servers with multiple channels.

  • Users on community focused instances should be limited to admins and mods. These should not be primary browsing accounts.
  • Community instances can be much more restrictive with their login & firewall policies, making these more secure. Improved remote moderation could limit logins to admins, so the UI itself could be firewalled.
  • Businesses, News Media, Celebrities, etc., should host their own community instances so that they can protect their brand and not be subject to third party content policies. Further, instances which are not compatible with the brand's image can be defederated without disrupting the brand's online presence.

Users

Users should congregate on user focused instances.

  • Local communities on user instances should be limited to meta topics and possibly a few broad general interest communities.
  • User instances can serve as a cache for the distributed network of communities, limiting the duplication of content.
  • User instances can be hardened for user facing security

How does this address the problems

Storage & Network Requirements

Having users concentrate on user instances reduces the storage overhead per user, because if multiple users on an instance subscribe to the same communities, there is still only one copy of the community for the instance.

On the network side of things, this reduces the amount of redistribution required by the community instance, because there would be fewer user instances to host subscribers.

In summary, the approach of split user & community instances is really optimal for ActivityPub, because user instances effectively become cacheing servers for communities. This greatly reduces the cost to host community instances.

randomly found this post, curious what other people think about this approach

this is exactly what I do with https://lemmy.mods4ever.com/

only my admin user is on there and it isn't subscribed to any remote communities, Lemmy is barely using any resources on my server it's basically free

I've actually thought about running 2 separate instances like lemmyusers.mods4ever.com and lemmycommunities.mods4ever.com or something like that

originally posted by @cerevant@lemmy.world aka @cerevant@fanaticus.social aka @cerevant@lemm.ee (according to their profile)

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I feel like I've formed some sort of faithfulness towards dbzer0 and have a bias towards subs and users of my instance. Anybody else in the same boat?

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Familiar faces resurfacing is nice and only possible on a smaller sized platform. Or clicking someones profile only to see a post I previously saw or commemted on.

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