tocopherol

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[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not to mention numerous Black Panthers, civil rights leaders, many others killed. The state knows that assassination can work.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

People often talk about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. By all measures Trump would like to be a new Hitler and his most fervent supporters see him as that. Is it surprising people would support such an action to stop him?

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And further alienate any actual people that might support them. They have to condemn political violence because it was an attack on their class, and their class solidarity overrides any political rivalry. But even my very liberal friend said "dang, it's too bad they missed." Idk what my Christian grandma feels about the shooting but when Trump got covid she did say he deserved it.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

It's not an 'idea', there is hard data showing the numbers of people deported. Trump hates immigrants too though, I'm not saying either one is better or worse on immigration. How am I intending to post pro-Biden rhetoric? Biden is a genociding racist that should be charged with war crimes.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It is one of America's ideals to help people everywhere find a better life and live the 'American dream.' You don't support this patriotic ideal? Thousands of refugees from the endless global wars that the US helps initiate come to our borders to find salvation. I gladly pay taxes to help needy immigrants because that is supposedly one of the foundational elements of 'America'.

But we are ruled by the wealthy who trick average people to be mad at immigrants instead of wage theft, wealth redistribution, unchecked global atrocities and war crimes done in the name profit, Raytheon et al and the military-industrial complex. I have been to the border, my friends and family have a lot of experience in border towns and there is no dangerous immigrant invasion going on like portrayed by the media. And what open borders? Biden has deported more people than Trump.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Political systems have collapsed countless times in history. When I say something better I mean something outside of this corrupted, illegitimate system that rewards only the wealthy, a structure which will kill us all if we don't work against it.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why is this particular political structure and electoral process and set of parties the best? Can't we be more creative? We can do so much more than vote in this same process which makes us choose the 'lesser evil' to save democracy, every election for decades now. I can't bring myself to legitimize the US and still feel a clean conscience any longer.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

And then anyone that suggests that elections aren't going to fix the root issues is shamed for ushering in fascism.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I have participated for over two decades in all ways possible, I can't support any part of this system with a good conscience anymore. We can do something better, the US constitution and neoliberal capitalism isn't the ultimate attainment of human progress.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yes it is pure scare mongering, that is how most media makes money. You are more likely to be murdered by your parents than an immigrant. What do you mean by "what's going on?" I enjoy freedom and good quality of life, which is why I think borders shouldn't exist.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 months ago

This place is fucking illiterate

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I have seen that said, but I haven't seen it to be true

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