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[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

^ This is a decently accurate account of how neoliberalism grew to become the dominant economic ideology in the US and Western Europe. Though it was really just a description of Reaganism and Thatcherism at first. Read David Harvey if you disagree.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Do you remember 9/11? The war in Iraq? Are you aware of what happened with the assassination attempt against Reagan? Do you remember how those affected the approval ratings of politicians?

You don't even necessarily have to flip people. You just have to get them to come out and mobilize.

It's not a sure thing, but a lot of y'all are coming across as coping. Political violence has often united this country around figures and policies.

Isn't Biden already polling poorly?

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

An antended at the rally and the shooter were killed per the AP

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

It's incredible people are down voting you because they don't like this thought. Y'all know how America is right? If this is all real, his approval numbers likely grow and his base gets fired up. Reagan got a bump back in the day.

You don't have to like that, but it's not misinformation to speculate on how this plays out. These images will be used for the rest of this race.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah because language barriers, cultural differences, and time zones don't matter

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm sorry but this isn't "world news" to me. Random drunken tragedies are hardly something useful to keep me informed on what is happening in the world.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, you see:

  1. I was drunk when I replied because I do have a social life
  2. Mocking you wasn't part of my argument. I made that in the first paragraph (about context and similarly). I just mocked you because I didn't like you. As you know, Professor Logician, an insult being included in an argument doesn't necessarily make the argument an ad hominem.

The original user didn't reply to my disagreement like a maladjusted prick, unlike you. So they got a civil disagreement back.

Unlike them, I do hope you get "attacked" by a 5 year old with a water gun this summer. 🤓

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because your analogy is ignoring both the volume of water involved and the context that surrounds both actions, one being actual bullying.

There is a world of difference in the psychological impact of a bullied child being soaked with a bucket of water by their peers and strangers being squirt with water guns by locals as a form of protest.

In the former, I would be dealing with peers and the feelings of social exclusion that come from bullying and unacceptance. People in my peer group would likely have been there pointing and laughing. There would be fear of having to run into my bullies on a daily basis who would be specifically targeting me as a single individual for no other reason but aggression or to assert dominance or whatever reasons a bully would have. The bullying period would likely have no definite end in sight.

In the later, I would at worst feel a bit of embarrassment and maybe some annoyance. Maybe I'd worry about running into the protestors again. But then my trip would end and I would be home. The protesters also are unlikely to be following me and my family around as specific people to harass and will instead be protesting generally.

And yeah this just comes off as Internet debate stuff to me. I said "it's water" instead of specifically "it was a water gun squirt". "hmm, having you ever considered tidal waves though. Water can be violent". Wow. Thanks.

And again, my response was to demean the overdramatic use of the word "attacked".

If someone jumped out of a bush and squirt you with a water gun a few times then ran away, would you call emergency services and tell them you were "attacked" by someone? If so, you really think that would be a good use of your local police force's time and wouldn't be exaggerating the situation?

It's incredibly soft to describe being shot at with a water gun as "attacked". Sorry. I hope a 5 year old doesn't "attack" any of y'all this summer.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The point is idiotic and ignores all context between the two acts. It literally does compare the two acts or it's irrelevant to bring up. That's what an analogy does.

Except for dumb as shit Internet debater assholes who base their usernames on mid tier novelists, I guess.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Yes a kid being bullied by their peers in a school with a bucket of water is the same as adult tourists in a foreign city being squirt as a protest against rampant overtourism. Why didn't I see the overt similarities. It's definitely more than just the use of water

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (9 children)

This analogy is a ridiculous false equivalence.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The people who have power will care if tourism dropped because tourists are made literally uncomfortable by local protests and that becomes known to potential travelers

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