the_sisko

Yes? I'm not saying Michigan handed him the election, I'm saying protest votes and no-votes played a big role. We're fucked due in part to people who say "ooh that will show the DNC"

Look, it's such an exhausting night, and I really do believe that you want to see a better world. I do too.

I'm just so shattered that we're looking at four years of chipping away at the rights of women, LGBT, and transgender people. Four years of degrading all the checks and balances against the president. Four years of political retaliations going unchecked. Four years of aggressive anti-climate policy, inhumane border policy, and pandering to a Russia (and now North Korea!) that is also slaughtering innocents in Ukraine. Four years of middle east policy that is at least as bad as Biden/Harris's, but likely far worse. And four years of slamming our economy with tariffs to "own the Chinese" I guess.

A vote for Harris was a vote to make things better. Not everything. Good lord she wasn't the answer to so many major issues facing the US and the world. But it was an objectively better vote, by every metric, than a vote for Trump, or a no-vote. I just can't argue any more on that.

In many elections, that would make sense. But in this election, there was a sizeable group of Nikki Haley Republicans up for grabs, who clearly didn't want to vote Trump if they could get an alternative. Is there a group of leftists who may have turned out in larger numbers if Harris had swung left? Yeah, maybe. But is that group anywhere near as large as the Haley Republicans, and are they present in swing states? No and no.

One Cheney convert in a swing state is worth a dozen liberals like me in California lol. Swinging right is the rational political move for the leftmost candidate. Swinging left is the rational political move for the rightmost candidate, which is why we saw Trump clumsily try to soften his stance on abortion.

Anybody who failed to vote Harris shares the blame, it's fairly obvious lol