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It’s a good thing we’re talking about democrats and not liberals then huh bud.

Now who’s gaslighting who

Finally someone on here is actually talking about the complexities that are actually present and not just “MURDER IS BAD, DONT GIVE MURDERER GUN”

I’m just not going to dismiss the entire fucking democratic party under a shallow judgement of specific actions taken by specific people

Pretty simple, and should be a familiar sentiment you should hold if you’re actually progressive, ironically.

Walks into a lions den

lions are in the lions den

Surprised pikachu

In all seriousness, I hope this is a wake up call for this trump supporter. They don’t fucking care about anyone but themselves. It’s not a party of progress or change.

It’s a party about regression toward kings and serfs and Friars

OH MY GOD

A NINTENDO SIXTY FO-

children screaming

I couldn’t disagree with you more if I wanted to.

Bernie Sanders isn’t interested in progress?

AOC isn’t interested in progress?

Ilhan Omar, Mark Pocan, Ayanna Presley, Rashida Tlaib? Not progressive? Not interested in fighting for minorities?

Maybe I’m just misunderstanding what you’re saying here, but your take smells a lot like “hello fellow teens, let’s go burn down some shit”, “oh look there’s a pallets of bricks here at this protest and it’s almossst dark time!”

What strategy dude

Winning by not alienating new voters who came over from Trumps base??? You and the other person are acting like just because they didn’t fucking talk about YOUR issue RIGHT NOW they will NEVER support you.

Republicans are so inconsistent on their ideals and morals

Siiiick well done

Makes sense, Russia is running out of cannon fodder in its ploy to try and steal a country, bring in some “big fat dumb westerners “

Bruh

I’m debating whether or not to even engage with you here given that you just gaslit a stranger because you’re upset about what the ruling class isn’t doing for you (presumably) - are you assuming maliciousness where ignorance might’ve sufficed?

You tell me. If you knew that you had all these great ideas and support for people but knew if you didn’t complete this first step, someone else’d be elected and do the opposite of those things, would you willingly lose and put those people you support at risk??

Do you really and truly think that progressives/liberals don’t care about trans rights? After all the bickering these rich assholes do on every damn channel on TV?

Give me a break.

You are valid in being frustrated You are allowed to have feelings and emotions about your treatment/mistreatment

But none of that makes it okay for you to take it out on your neighbors during a discussion which was trying to emphasize that politics are about strategy, not only morals.

This country operates via a leader person who’s voted for by majority count. In other words, that’s one person who needs to cater to 345 MILLION people.

Sometimes that means keeping your mouth shut on a particular issue temporarily to secure the win. When you’ve won, then you can start acting on those things you held off on emphasizing.

The alternative is that the other rich asshole not only comes in and withholds support, but also comes in and takes active measures to make it worse for these groups.

If it’s between regression and stagnation, I’m not happy with either. I will still take stagnation however because walking something back after it’s been walked back will only be harder.

When I go to pride festivals/parades I’m there to show my support. That’s active support.

Just because I don’t bring up LGBTQ+ rights and arguments at work doesn’t mean I don’t support them. Sometimes, by giving new dem voters some time to acclimate to the waters, you can give them the food later and they’ll be more likely to eat then, rather than when they’re first getting in the pool.

As much as some would like it to be true, you can’t just cram “new” morals down people’s throats and expect miraculous results. You can’t just tell people they’re a POS for not believing in what you believe in and expect them to be like “yo! I am an ignorant, holier-than-thou asshole… you’re right!” There is grace (growing thinner by the election cycle) and strategy in politics. Not everything is as shallow or malicious as people want them to be.