@F04118F @neons From https://murena.com/products/smartphones/ you can.
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@SrMono @neons Stock is indeed normal Google Android. But they really do make it easy to switch to Calyx or /e/OS and back.
Would love for @WeAreFairphone to also start offering a choice of OS, especially in the current geopolitical climate. #unplugtrump
@Routhinator @retrolasered I know, I am just a random stranger on the internet, but you can buy them already degoogled with /e/OS here: https://murena.com/products/smartphones/
It comes at a bit of a premium, and it can be quite a wait, but they do ship to Canada directly from France via UPS
Else I would be glad to figure something out with you.
@David @wanderColossus Maybe. I still refuse to use it. I use either AOSP or the FUTO keyboard. Typing in Dutch, English and German most of the time. Not always great but I make it work
@Ideonek And Mistral (which is also built into #kSuite alongside with sovereign #Llama) isn't exactly Clippy. Come on...
It sure isn't perfect / not as good as ChatGPT right now but #LLMs need to LEARN and #Mistral cannot learn if we don't use it.
Also: a large part of the superiority of #ChatGPT stems from the fact that they scrape copyrighted sources that they actually have no permission to use. Do you want to support that? I sure as heck don't.
@Ideonek Everything you NEED is there, I can assure you. And then some. But if you keep looking for excuses to not make the change, you'll never do it.
Sure it is uncomfortable. Sure it takes getting used to. I still don't know everything I probably should about Linux and FOSS. But in the end it brings peace of mind.
Not worrying who looks over your shoulder. Your data is yours. And it works...
@Ideonek Either you WANT to support European / private solutions or you don't. It IS that easy. It's need vs want
I've been a Workspace and MS365 user and Admin for years.
And you are throwing the free and business tiers together like it's the same. It's not.
Free? It ain't free. US companies make you pay with your #data and #privacy. That should be worth SOMETHING to you. It is to them. Millions.
#Linux not out of the box? Is #Windows? How long did it take you to learn that? #nobigtech
@Ideonek @guest I don't think thats the main issue. Europeans (governments, companies and people alike) are prone to make themselves less / smaller than they really are in a #calimerosyndrome We are not 'show-offy' enough apparently.
#kSuitePro is cheaper than #MS365 or #Workspace
#magicearth works better than #maps for navigation (less distraction)
#LibreOffice and #Linux just work for 95% of users if they have the will
@datenhamster @SrMono Same here. Super happy with it and absolutely seamless experience. That thing is an absolute beast for it's size and a joy to work on! @tuxedocomputers
@rumschlumpel I meant @dangling_cat
That way of thinking, that all companies are subject to change of policy so it doesn't matter who you support... It DOES matter. A lot.
@TypFaffke @SrMono Damn... Why did you have to bring that up? Just bought one, did not make the connection and now I cannot un-see it...
@taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone And your point is?
They already do work with Murena. Keep in mind Fairphone is still a very small company, compared to others, with limited resources. They can't do it all on their own. And each Fairphone sold is contributing to the idea there is a way to do things differently than what happens now.
Until things like #jolla or #VollaOS and #ubuntutouch gain significant traction (especially UT needs a revival), they are our best chance.