mholiv

Yah. Lol. I was trying to avoid all the sidelong tangential points but the guy just does not see that using women as pawns to prevent male violence is a bad thing.

Until you see:

1. Women are people
2. People should not be used as a means to an end

I don’t think this discussion is worth having. I hope you are never used as a means to an end.

I am going to ignore the weird race stuff. I don’t agree with it but don’t want to spend the energy.

I will speak about this:

I just suppose that the risk of alienating men and them getting more violent may outweigh the immediate benefit of increased plane safety, eventually turning against women themselves. But to prove or disprove that point, I'd love to see more numbers

This again dehumanizes women and removes agency.

You are saying that women are the tools that are used to prevent male violence. By treating women as a means to reduce violence without considering the women themselves as people you are dehumanizing and removing agency.

Women are people just as men are people. Women are not the tools to reduce male violence.

You also say giving women the choice to sit with women is radical. Women having the chose to protect themselves is not radical. It is a basis for a moral society.

You shouldn’t need studies to prove how effective or not using women as tools to reduce male violence is.

Women are not tools.

You just speak about women in a dehumanizing way that removes agency. It feel gross. Reminds me of doctors from the 90s that said we need studies to tell if inserting IUDs causes pain.

I think it’s terrible because the take treats women as things that defuse incels. Like sacrificing some women is worth it. Feel gross and dehumanizing.

This is a terrible take.

With the assistance of a LLM:

A man said he had proof that voting information was being sent to places outside of America. But when people checked his proof, they found out someone had changed it to make it look like it was true. The numbers in his proof didn’t match, so they knew he was not telling the truth.

Strongly agree that fat people should be able to participate in society.

Strongly disagree that genetics causes obesity. When I was younger I spent a lot of time with the American side of my family. Every time I was with them I would gain like 10kg over 3 months. Then I would lose it after I left. It was purely living in their no walking, highly processed unhealthy food environment.

I think someone sold it to him knowing he was too incompetent to have a second source check it.

TLDR he provided a bunch of packet captures “proving” voting traffic was going to non American IPs. His captures where shown to have been faked because the packet checksums didn’t match, but only on the packets showing traffic going to non American IPs.

If you actually read the article it seems pretty factual. It lists Bush’s claims and then has a response. Seems to merit the rating.

The reporting of the Bush administration’s position and the response seems fair.

**IRAQ:**

STATUS: Since 1998, the Iraqi government has barred U.N. weapons inspectors from examining sites where some suspect that nuclear, chemical or biological weapons are made and stored. The United Nations has said it will lift sanctions against the Middle Eastern country -- in place since Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and the ensuing Gulf War in 1991 -- only if inspectors can verify that Iraq has dismantled all its weapons of mass destruction. In an editorial this month in a state-run newspaper, Iraq again denied it has or is developing such weapons.

RESPONSE TO BUSH'S SPEECH: "This statement of President Bush is stupid and a statement that does not befit the leader of the biggest state in the world," Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan said Wednesday.

For the record you should probably change your password. That way they can’t even try.