maegul

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[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@eldereko

> he plugins are still very few compared to other mature editors. also, it’s not quite as configurable as Sublime

AFAIU, it doesn't have a plugin runtime, which is fairly glaring to me (but maybe not for devs these days).

This is what triggered my "is it hype" thought, as I've seen people say it does but it's in rust or something.

And I feel like many fail to realise how hard it is to build a new editor with everything we take for granted these days.

Fediverse & typst similarly.

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 6 points 2 days ago

@programming

I get that peeps are coming from VSCode and I support competition with MS’s EEE of software dev.

But, like, bloat and corporate capture were always the trade offs with VSCode … you all knew that right?

 

Is the new #zed editor mostly hype rn?

I can believe it’s good and cool ( built in graphics and collab seem to me like good ideas).

But as someone who happily stayed with sublime (with LSPs a likely game changer) …

takes like “it’s fast!”, “LSP!”, “it now has snippets!” … along with people telling me it has a plug-in system, but doesn’t (cf python/lua runtimes of sublime/nvim) give me massive hype vibes and honestly just feels very “2020s-tech”.

#programming

@programming

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Is the new #zed editor mostly hype rn?

I can believe it’s good and cool ( built in graphics and collab seem to me like good ideas).

But as someone who happily stayed with sublime (with LSPs a likely game changer) …

takes like “it’s fast!”, “LSP!”, “it now has snippets!” … along with people telling me it has a plug-in system, but doesn’t (cf python/lua runtimes of sublime/nvim) give me massive hype vibes and honestly just feels very “2020s-tech”.

#programming

@programming

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

@simpleguy @fediverse

Unfortunately it’s unlikely to come soon as mastodon is a while away from implementing groups and are doing it their own incompatible way.

This tag process works though and I’m happy the lemmy devs implemented it.

Spread the word.

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

@simpleguy @fediverse

I don’t believe so. I’m pretty sure I’ve checked it, but I could be wrong.

It makes sense though as hashtags are a different mechanism from follows and boosts.

You could do a quick test with the test community and the test hashtag.

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 1 points 1 month ago

@hrefna @tschenkel @astrojuanlu @programming

Yea ... it seems that things like this are part of Julia's problem ...

that for many the "two language problem" is actually the "two language solution" that's working just fine and as intended, or as you say, well enough to make an ecosystem jump seem too costly.

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 2 points 1 month ago

@FizzyOrange

Yea I remember reading about some deeper issues with the language (Dan Luu was quite dark on it I think) and that more or less turned me off. At the time I would have had to have been amongst some dedicated users urging me on to consider adoption.

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@festus

In general, how much more performant would you say Rust is or can be than Julia? Any good resources on this?

What's interesting about this take is that it targets the whole "two language" thing and implies that it might be a fool's errand.

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 2 points 1 month ago

@mvirts

Problem with that logic is that python was essentially "reborn" at some point 2010-2012.

That's when scipy, pandas and notebooks all came together, and with early pandas putting python on the map more than some (cough - Guido - cough) are willing to admit.

Of course the maturity of the ecosystem by then is part of it ... but also pushing through the python 3 situation wasn't trivial and likely speaks to the momentum the science stack brought to the ecosystem.

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 1 points 1 month ago

@tschenkel @astrojuanlu @programming

I understood ... I was reaching for some shorthand (500 char limits FTW!)

There's probably a good amount of work that exists somewhere between your needs and "could be a spreadsheet", where caring about performance isn't an issue or hasn't surfaced yet, either practically or culturally (where the boundaries of what research *can* be done "tomorrow" are of importance)

BTW, cheers for all the info!!

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

@tschenkel @astrojuanlu @programming

I'd suppose part of the problem might be that there's a somewhat hidden 3rd category of user that "feels" whatever added complexity there is in a two-language lang like julialang and has no real need for performant "product" code.

And that lack of adoption amongst this cohort and your first enforces lang separation.

I may be off base with whether there's a usability trade off, but I'd bet there's at least the perception of one.

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 3 points 1 month ago

@astrojuanlu @programming

> Maybe nobody (save for the Julia developers) ever cared about the "two language problem"

Yea, it’s what prompted my post. I saw in a rust forum push back on the two language thing but from the lower level side (where they were arguing about introducing lazier memory management facilities on the basis that you should just use swift/Python etc).

And re MATLAB … absolutely! This is not a diss against Julia at all.

 

Did #julialang end up kinda stalling or at least plateau-ing lower than hoped?

I know it's got its community and dedicated users and has continued development.

But without being in that space, and speculating now at a distance, it seems it might be an interesting case study in a tech/lang that just didn't have landing spot it could arrive at in time as the tech-world & "data science" reshuffled while julia tried to grow ... ?

Can a language ever solve a "two language" problem?

@programming

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 2 points 1 month ago

@electricprism

Yea. The basic idea feels like something that's kinda been forgotten in the wake of big-social's long dominance and vanilla-ification of online activity.

I even once asked the dev of a popular mastodon app who was expressing interesting in making a lemmy app too ... "why not just add lemmy compatibility to the mastodon app".

Their response was that they couldn't see what that would look like or how it would work.

It's all just text messages ... I don't think this is hard!

 

Is there any real or serious conversation or work around the idea of a feature-full social media browser?

Basically something like a web browser but for “all the social media” along with useful organisation features too.

For locked down big social APIs, this makes less sense nowadays, but for open alt-social systems, *it is likely the most valuable promise of such systems* that they can become like the web, reachable through an awesome all-in-one app.

@fediverse

 

A thought on "moderation bubbles"

A plurality of contentiously incompatible but independent moderation "spaces" ... is the only way in which the internet is good at digesting substantial and contentious topics.

* conversations on the internet generally suck.
* On any contentious front, strong moderation can run the risk of "echo chambers".
* For those willing to survey multiple "bubbles", an interconnected plurality provides a de facto dialectics.

Thus federation for the win!

@fediverse

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Following #lemmy communities from #mastodon has gotten much better

Version 19.4 introduced automatic hashtag-ing (see https://lemmy.ml/post/16585416)

Posts get federated with a hashtag matching the community name.

The important bit is that comments to posts *don't* get the tags.

Which means you can follow the corresponding tag on mastodon and get a feed only of posts.

EG: #asklemmy

If you're starting a community, giving it a unique enough name could help prevent overlap too.

@fediverse

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I had no prior knowledge of what these #mastodon app numbers were but found myself pretty surprised at

* Mastodon's dominance (~34% counting web and apps) ... compared with
* How little market share "celebrated" iOS (ivory & icecubes) and web apps (elk, phanpy) have (4.3% total, 0.7% for elk+phanpy)
* But all that (and the other listed items) are only ~50% with the rest consisting of "thousands" more!

Genuinely sad to see elk and phanpy not get more love.

https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/112662023734261452

@mastodon

 

Doing some "cold-call" business/professional emailing recently, And I feel the specter of #AI

I can't see my emails seeming genuine or real or human.

Formal digital text seems even less human or trust worthy than it did in previously.

The urge to have a phone call is stronger than ever for me (as a millennial that *never* picks up).

For me, this is new, and I only noticed now and I'm a little disturbed at how AI silently altered my world view despite not really using it

@casualconversation

 

Something I've found disappointing in the "AI conversation" around me ...

... there hasn't been enough honest introspection about how this whole thing feels and likely will feel.

Like, there's something disturbing in AI's first "success" being "art" and "music".

There's something disturbing about how we were never going to be able to help ourselves & are compelled to make things like LLMs, but can still be frightened by its implications.

anger v hype leaves all that out

@casualconversation

 

Iceshrimp: A #csharp fediverse platform

Was just told (by @Subversivo ) about this: https://iceshrimp.dev/iceshrimp/iceshrimp.net

#Iceshrimp are rewriting the whole thing (a JS/Node #misskey / #firefish fork) in C# with Blazor for the frontend.

Cool to see. Should handle the performance issues that have plagued the *key forks and maybe provide a new general branch of fediverse platform.

What lang/stack isn't represented on the fediverse now? C++, Kotlin?

@fediverse
@fediversenews

 

UI differences are a big factor in the success/failure of decentralised federation of diverse platforms and content

And this seems a good example: bridged #mastodon posts onto #BlueSky which has a lower character limit than Mastodon.

So, just like #lemmy posts on mastodon, you don't get the full content of the post (which ends with an abrupt ellipsis here) and have to take a link to the original platform.

However powerful the underlying protocols, this isn't far from screenshots.

@fediverse

 

The fediverse won’t succeed at putting up a #Stackoverflow substitute and that’s a problem?

Just an impression: All the pieces seem to be there. But what’s required is a team, with devs, PMs and coordinators, dedicated to making a particular place in the #fediverse .

That’s resources and decently sized financial and organisational demands, especially to get a critical mass of users.

Is the fediverse up to that challenge? If not, is it an issue worth addressing?

@fediverse

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