jabjoe

They lost those guys because those seats couldn't be won by a more right wing Conservative. But the party went full further right and those voters rejected it. They will not rewin those seats from the right.

And what will the other half do when it happens? They honestly think they could achieve anything staying? If so, they are..... mistaken.

If the Tories do what we think they are about to do, I think the last of the right-centre voters clinging on will give up on them, and further swell the LibDems.

Maybe at least getting those votes stuck off their official vote count. It was about that. They wanted every vote nationally they could. More vote votes than seats fit their politics of grievance. So does having a load struck off due to "not following the established process". They won't want the real word, fraud.

Pretty sure Reform has plenty of x-labour racists too.

Centre Tories seam to have gone LibDems. Or not voted all.

Tory 2019 : 13,966,454 votes

Tory 2024 : 6,827,311 , Reform : 4,117,221

Their core are dying off and not being replaced. Also they are losing centre right voters who either vote Lab or Lib, or not at all. Further right they go, the worse that gets.

Exactly. No UKIP or Reform in 2019, and 43.6% for Tory. A lot of vote was anti Corybn. A lot of the vote was hope for Boris's leveling up.

In 2024, I think most of the crazy right was already reform. The remaining Tory vote were voting for Tory of old, mostly centre right.

If by the next election, they have been through complete Faragification, I think they will get less again. Partly their base dying off and not being replaced and partly them driving away anyone near the centre. I think they do this for an election or two before a new Cameron comes to detoxify the party again.

I think a big chunk of it was anti-Corybn.

And the more fascist they become, the more unelectable. I think they kind of have to finish being consumed by Farage and lose a few times to learn it.

Certainly not the way we lunch right now. The energy used, that focused, in that short a time, is insane.

Electric is far more efficient too, thus cheaper. Electricity you can transit over distance over wire and generate however you like. We've done it a long time, far and wide.

Turning electricity into hydrogen, distributing it, and then turning it back into electricity to move a vehicle, is so wasteful/expensive.

Just use a big battery.

So teens learn about Tor & VPNs. This stuff doesn't work. The higher you put the skills to get access, the more they will learn. Nothing motivates teens more than access to adult stuff. Maybe this is really a tech literacy policy.