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[–] fr0g@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

But, it sounds to me like it's more adapted for smaller devices and IoT, like the Steam Deck or similar handheld devices.

There are plenty of desktop focused immutable Linux distros. With Fedora Sikverblue/Kinoite probably being the most prominent one, but there are also Vanilla OS, the ublue distros and the one I'm personally using, (openSUSE) Aeon. NixOS technically counts too I think, but that one has it's whole own philosophy/structure that extends way beyond just being immutable

What were the pros and cons according to you?

Pros: increased stability/less risk of breakage, sepaeation of base system/apps that will be more intuitive to many non-Linux users, (Flatpak) apps tend to always be the newest version
Cons: still some smaller pain points around app integration, some flatpaks might have some features that don't fully work or you might need to change a permission (this has gotten a lot better already though), less suited for tinkerers

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

SUSE isn't owned by Novell anymore though. So this isn't particularly relevant.

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's this blogpost but it doesn't really shed any more light on the thing either

https://blog.sonny.re/retrospective-as-gnome-director

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Friendly PSA that there is also StreetComplete ExpertEdition (on F-Droid only) which has more tasks and crucially allows you to directly edit tags. Very recommended if you know what you're doing and have some more familiarity with OSM.
https://github.com/Helium314/SCEE

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 8 points 3 months ago

I'd say it's non-mouse focused. Heavy touch or keyboard focus work pretty well, but the mouse really isn't intended as anything more than a helper.

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That could be a branding strategy, I guess, but the community project behind it will still need a name of some kind obviously. Unless they only want to show up at conferences/have a website url etc as "the project whose name shall not be mentioned".

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

There is no "current proposal" at this point.

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And where do you think the people deciding what to buy get their information? Mind share is important.

Most certainly not in Linux distro community spaces, because those are completely irrelevant for them and their needs.

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

And you really think, people who are willing and able to buy enterprise support for their Linux distro get confused by the naming?

No, I don't think that. I *know* that because I'm active in the community.

OpenSuse is essentially free marketing for SUSE, nobody would know them otherwise.

That is absolute nonsense. SUSE mostly serves large enterprise customers. That's an entirely different demographic from people who care about Desktop Linux or setting up a home server.

Edit:

its market share is relatively small compared to Red Hat or Canonical.

I'm pretty sure SUSE is bigger than Canonical.

Editedit: According to wikipedia SUSE's revenue is about twice as high as Canonical's

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of countries are ahead in their targets for solar because solar has gotten so much cheaper so rapidly. In general renewable technologies have gotten cheaper faster than even the most ambitious predictions foresaw. So it might very well not be a low-balling thing.

[–] fr0g@piefed.social 59 points 3 months ago (14 children)

No, there are good reasons for it. A lot of people get confused between SUSE and openSUSE offerings. Often SUSE customers show up in openSUSE places, because they believe that it's a place they can get official support. And I'm sure a lot of potential customers might get confused in the same way too.
On the flip side there are also a lot of openSUSE (adjacent) users who think SUSE is (secretly or not) making openSUSE development decisions or think they can dand SUSE to do that and that.

So there are some good reasons to consider a rebranding, but also some speaking against it, like the less of recognition it might entail.

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