cleanprairiedog

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[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

Say there was a mentally disabled human who did not recognize themselves in a mirror. Would it be ethical to jam metal pipes down their throats and force feed them until their livers become diseased? Or cut their throats and tear their livers out? If not, why is it OK to do this to ducks and geese?

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

Farmed animals are slaves to humans

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Black people were once considered animals by slave owners and were given no rights. People who sold slaves were just following the laws of supply and demand too. The market isn't a great arbiter of morality, there's plenty of horrible things people will pay for, including the diseased livers of tortured ducks and geese. Doesn't make the product ethical just because someone will pay for it.

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

It's pronounced cash. It's a dumb name for the restaurant. It's a restaurant in Little Rock, Ark. Overpriced, animal abusing establishment.

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

It's a false dichotomy, leave them on farms or leave the in the wilderness to die. Sanctuaries treat cows with dignity instead of objects for profit.

There will be more cows existing at any one point in time if more people don't go vegan because of the population increase. It would take less resources to let the cows alive now live out their natural lives and there not be any cows anymore in 20 years than to continue sexually abusing them, forcing them to reproduce, then killing 30 million of them a year in the US alone. There's 91 million cows in the US right now, it would take less resources to let them live out there lives and there be no cows in 20 years than if there are over 91 million cows in 20 years. The population will decrease from 91 million down to around 0 in 25 years whereas if people keep eating cows, there will be over 91 million cows consuming resources in 25 years.

This utopia scenario is a fantasy, but it demonstrates an important fact that if we breed less cows, less resources will be used and there will be less of a toll on ecosystems. The ways less cows will exist is if humans stop reproducing as much and/or go vegan. The numbers will decrease gradually the more that people go vegan.

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If this were not the case and the numbers were natural, the planet would be consumed by cows in a short number of years.

The reason there are so many cows is because people are breeding them into existence. There are far more cows now than there would be if people were not eating them. I'd rather be extinct than be sexually abused by humans, have my children killed at a fraction of their lifespan, and live in filth like most cows do.

Instead of breeding more animals, we should let the ones alive now live out their natural lifespans and stop breeding them. But as long as people keep buying animal products, breeders will keep breeding the animals.

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

I tried that now my scrotum is stretched out like a fucking yard!

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I agree 100% with you killing aquatic life is bad for ecosystems and the animals themselves.

Saying the cows are born to die is arbitrary. There are cultures that consume dogs and cats for food, the same could be said about them.

If a serial killer was impregnating human women and stealing their babies to eat them, the same could be said about the babies the serial killer was eating. That they were just born to die.

Vegans don't consume any land or marine animals. Veganism is a philosophy concerned with avoiding harm to animals as far as possible and practicable.

It's not a philosophy of complete non-harm since that isn't attainable for most people with the social obligations they have.

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Any argument for plant sentience is an argument for veganism since according to the USDA, animals consume over 70% of soy and 40% of corn in the US (humans only consume 10% of corn directly). Corn and soy are the two largest crops. Not only does buying animal products kill the animal for that product, but amplifies crop deaths from all the crops they are fed and are inefficiently converted to flesh. You can be vegan and not eat mushrooms. 95% of plant biologists are in agreement plants are not sentient. If they were, still makes sense to be vegan.

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If a person isn't vegan, it's not what they eat, but who. Some people don't give a fuck about other people being racist, not caring about shit is the norm.

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same was said about whites against abolishing slavery.

[–] cleanprairiedog@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Cows can live up to 20 years but the average age at slaughter for cows killed for their flesh is about 1.5 years.

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