V0ldek

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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 13 points 3 months ago (16 children)

worse at what, exactly?

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait so it's a decentralised network with a rigid authoritative hierarchy?

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

lol i basically wrote that article

Oops

To me it looked like someone wrote some babble about the architecture and then a Responsible Adult came in and added the thinly veiled sneers of "all they built is a text board, Yarvin is a certified idiot, none of this works"

I might read the primary source on this tomorrow if I hate myself hard enough, I am fascinated by why you need two languages and two OS things to run a nazi chatroom, sounds like some absolute pinnacle of human lack of thought

EDIT: I guess the actual concept might be so insane that there's no way to write an article about it that makes sense and doesn't use expletives

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (14 children)

What the hell is this

Urbit is a decentralized personal server platform based on functional programming in a peer-to-peer network.

Am I having a stroke? What does "functional programming in a network" even mean? Does it mean anything? Do you torrent lambdas?

You wouldn't download a closure

The Urbit software stack consists of a set of programming languages ("Hoon," a high-level functional programming language, and "Nock," its low-level compiled language)

Weird ass names aside (Hoon sounds like a slur or is it just me?), they built two languages? Also what does "its" refer to here, Urbit's? From context it's as if Nock was Hoon's language, but that doesn't make semantical sense.

Also editorial note, just say "a pair" if there are two, not "a set"...

a single-function operating system built on those languages ("Arvo"); a runtime implementation of that operating system ("Vere"),

What. A "single-function operating system" doesn't even mean anything. Do they mean a unikernel? That at least is an actual term. And then what's that other thing? A "runtime implementation of an OS"? What's Arvo if it's not implemented or doesn't run, a fucking abstract painting of an OS?

And again, why do you need two languages to build this, it really seems you can have one? You're designing them from scratch anyway specifically to build this OS, why not make one proper language? Linus Torvalds barely had one and he managed.

public key infrastructure, built on the Ethereum blockchain ("Azimuth"), for each Urbit instance to participate in a decentralized network; and the decentralized network itself, an encrypted, peer-to-peer protocol.

What are we doing here.

The 128-bit Urbit identity space consists of 256 "galaxies", 65,280 "stars" (255 for each galaxy), and 4,294,901,760 "planets" (65,535 for each star) and comets under those.

What does any of this mean. Is it also a metaverse attempt? What the fuck is a planet in a network dude, would you call 123.73.41.0 more of an asteroid or a planetoid?

And now for a shot:

In 2022, the main software in an Urbit installation was a "bare-bones" text-based message board.

And chaser:

Tlon, the company founded by Yarvin to build Urbit, has received seed funding from various investors since its inception, most notably Peter Thiel, whose Founders Fund, with venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz invested $1.1 million.

So they built an artificially complex architecture, to the point where half of its description sounds made up, took the most complex kinds software engineering projects (a programming language and an OS), did them twice for good measure, slapped on a blockchain to be cool and hip I guess, for absolutely no fucking reason whatsoever. They didn't have a use-case that would warrant any of this engineering effort, all they wanted was a message board, a problem we have solved in the fucking 90s (? Maybe earlier?).

But it's good enough for the Lich King and Egg Boi to give them a million fucking dollars. God I hope at least they boughy some quality drugs with that money or else this was a giant waste of resources.

Conclusion: the Wikipedia article on Urbit is absolute garbage. I feel like I know less about what the fuck this thing is after I read it. Can anyone tell me why any of this? Why did they do this? Why do they need a custom OS? Who hurt them so bad they came up with such shitty names for everything? Would you nock a hoon or is that too vere?

EDIT: Bonus question, how is this pronounced? Instinctively I read the U as in "uranium", but the article writes "an Urbit", so it's a short U like in "full"?

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 20 points 3 months ago

Very chill and ethical behaviour daddy Microsoft

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 3 months ago

people who want to get out have a very liquid way to get out, but they all need to squeeze through the same small hole.

liquid (...) but they all need to squeeze through the same small hole.

isn't that a literal description of illiquid?

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Artists using GenAI tools are among the most hardworking and innovative creators I've encountered.

oh sweet fuck, dude, it's not our fault everyone you hang out with has the innovativeness and work ethic of a concrete slab

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 3 months ago

His probably most famous venture was trying to construct and sell a self.-contained BTC miner in an RPi form factor, which crashed and almost literally burned hilariously.

Oh, I remember that one! That's a claim to fame if I've ever heard one.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

10x smaller doesn’t mean 10x cheaper when things you’re cutting corners on are warhead and rocket engine that is cheapest components per gram that also make the entire thing work.

Wait, what else is there in a missile though? I'm obviously a complete ignorant in this space but in my head a missile is the thing that goes boom (warhead), the thing that goes vroom (engine), electronics, and the packaging. I'm assuming the packaging is also not the main cost here since "smaller doesn't mean cheaper", sooo, what, are the electronics that expensive?

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 4 points 3 months ago

Shout out to my senior teammate at Microsoft who sanitised my comments for external consumption.

We'd have a group chat with some folks from another team, they'd say something stupid, so I'd private message my teammate "jesus fucking christ what the fuck are they talking about I swear to god those fuckers don't read any docs we send them I'm going to print them out and staple them to their bloody foreheads" and he'd laugh and then post "Hey, thanks for your comments, we discussed this previously here [attachment], but we can go over it again on our Wednesday meeting, cheers".

I swear he was the only reason I wasn't fired and forcefully escorted out of that building.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait, are those people so fucked in the head they genuinely tricked themselves into thinking users... Like ads?

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wait isn't that the only kind of DAO

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