TinyTimmyTokyo

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In a recent Hard Fork (Hard Hork?) episode, Casey Newton and Kevin Roose described attending the recent "The Curve" conference -- a conference in Berkeley organized and attended mostly by our very best friends. When asked about the most memorable session he attended at this conference, Casey said:

That would have been a session called If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies, which was hosted by Eliezer Yudkowski. Eliezer is sort of the original doomer. For a couple of decades now, he has been warning about the prospects of super intelligent AI.

His view is that there is almost no scenario in which we could build a super intelligence that wouldn't either enslave us or hurt us, kill all of us, right? So he's been telling people from the beginning, we should probably just not build this. And so you and I had a chance to sit in with him.

People fired a bunch of questions at him. And we should say, he's a really polarizing figure, and I think is sort of on one extreme of this debate. But I think he was also really early to understanding a lot of harms that have bit by bit started to materialize.

And so it was fascinating to spend an hour or so sitting in a room and hearing him make his case.

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Yeah, my case for taking these folks seriously, Kevin, is that this is a community that, over a decade ago, started to make a lot of predictions that just basically came true, right? They started to look at advancements in machine learning and neural networks and started to connect the dots. And they said, hey, before too long, we're going to get into a world where these models are incredibly powerful.

And all that stuff just turned out to be true. So, that's why they have credibility with me, right? Everything they believe, you know, we could hit some sort of limit that they didn't see coming.

Their model of the world could sort of fall apart. But as they have updated it bit by bit, and as these companies have made further advancements and they've built new products, I would say that this model of the world has basically held so far. And so, if nothing else, I think we have to keep this group of folks in mind as we think about, well, what is the next phase of AI going to look like for all of us?

Same. I'm not being critical of lab-grown meat. I think it's a great idea.

But the pattern of things he's got an opinion on suggests a familiarity with rationalist/EA/accelerationist/TPOT ideas.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Do you have a link? I'm interested. (Also, I see you posted something similar a couple hours before I did. Sorry I missed that!)

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago (46 children)

So it turns out the healthcare assassin has some.... boutique... views. (Yeah, I know, shocker.) Things he seems to be into:

  • Lab-grown meat
  • Modern architecture is rotten
  • Population decline is an existential threat
  • Elon Musk and Peter Thiel

How soon until someone finds his LessWrong profile?

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

As anyone who's been paying attention already knows, LLMs are merely mimics that provide the "illusion of understanding".

 

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A new study published on Thursday in The American Journal of Psychiatry suggests that dosage may play a role. It found that among people who took high doses of prescription amphetamines such as Vyvanse and Adderall, there was a fivefold increased risk of developing psychosis or mania for the first time compared with those who weren’t taking stimulants.

Perhaps this explains some of what goes on at LessWrong and in other rationalist circles.

 

Maybe she was there to give Moldbug some relationship advice.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (17 children)

I'm noticing that people who criticize him on that subreddit are being downvoted, while he's being upvoted.

I wouldn't be surprised if, as part of his prodigious self-promotion of this overlong and tendentious screed, he's steered some of his more sympathetic followers to some of these forums.

Actually it's the wikipedia subreddit thread I meant to refer to.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a longtime listener to Tech Won't Save Us, I was pleasantly surprised by my phone's notification about this week's episode. David was charming and interesting in equal measure. I mostly knew Jack Dorsey as the absentee CEO of Twitter who let the site stagnate under his watch, but there were a lot of little details about his moderation-phobia and fash-adjacency that I wasn't aware of.

By the way, I highly recommend the podcast to the TechTakes crowd. They cover many of the same topics from a similar perspective.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For me it gives off huge Dr. Evil vibes.

If you ever get tired of searching for pics, you could always go the lazy route and fall back on AI-generated images. But then you'd have to accept the reality that in few years your posts would have the analog of a geocities webring stamped on them.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 16 points 5 months ago

Trace seems a bit... emotional. You ok, Trace?

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But will my insurance cover a visit to Dr. Spicy Autocomplete?

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So now Steve Sailer has shown up in this essay's comments, complaining about how Wikipedia has been unfairly stifling scientific racism.

Birds of a feather and all that, I guess.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 16 points 5 months ago

what is the entire point of singling out Gerard for this?

He's playing to his audience, which includes a substantial number of people with lifetime subscriptions to the Unz Review, Taki's crapazine and Mankind Quarterly.

 

Molly White is best known for shining a light on the silliness and fraud that are cryptocurrency, blockchain and Web3. This essay may be a sign that she's shifting her focus to our sneerworthy friends in the extended rationalism universe. If so, that's an excellent development. Molly's great.

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