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I think HPMOR also still needs a content warning for talking about sexual assault. Weird how that is a pattern.
Even he thinks you shouldn't read HPMOR.
Careful! You might turn all Remarkable AI evil with this! YOU DO NOT THINK IN SUFFICIENT DETAIL ABOUT A SPACE ODYSSEY ...
More like JBP looking at his tool box with his hammer called Jung in it. Ah! A nail!
It seems a bit of a contrarian sinfest defender. Which causes them to mention some iffy things. Which the r/sinfest admins then delete after downvotes it seems.
And, it gets worse, this wasn't a remark from his 'crazy on benzos and attention' period. He did this in class. (the clip itself is a bit interesting as you can see what he is trying to say (trying to make a point about Jung), but you can also see why it is failing re the analysis of the war front because imho he doesn't understand facism and the nazis that well, so he makes it into a 'chaos for chaos sake' thing).
Fair enough, I just compared it to de Hond's twitter account which is just vax doubt going on and on atm. (He doesn't seem to be a hardcore 'don't vax ever' person, but he just feeds into the anti-vax conspiracy shit fulltime, and I don't see how he doesn't care about the effect he has on the people who listen to him).
Compared to that Nate seems to at least be 'normal', or constrain himself to being private, so that is good at least.
Of course compared to the Hond (77), Silver (46) is also younger, so I think we all will be amazed at how much crazier he will get when he gets older. As older age does seem to be a big factor in this, for some reason people who get pushed forward as smart/insightful lose their entire ability to listen to critical sounds/doubt themselves when they grow older and the crazy comes out. (See also how Cornel West (71) has gone a bit of the deep end lately apparently, and this. People on bsky talked about him as an example of this issue iirc).
'Fun' (not fun, horrible) detail about slavery vs genocide. During the holocaust, some capitalists saw all these people in concentration camps as nice business opportunity and convinced the nazis to sell them slaves to work in some factories. These people were basically beaten to death because they didn't work fast enough. (because they were hungry). So the statement is a bit counterfactual here (also, another point for 'capitalists would gladly work with genocidal fascists' for the people keeping score (also for any Jordan Peterson fans this will come as a big shock (he, as self proclaimed expert on this subject, famously said that the nazis were more evil than people thought because they didn't work the Jewish people to death)). For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monowitz_concentration_camp
but even in ancient Greece and Rome there existed some legal protections for slaves
Evidence for this is the comments we have from Athenians on the Spartans who they considered to be exceptionally cruel and bad re the treatment of their slaves. At least that is what I remember from reading Bret Devereaux blog.
Anyway, it feels really weird that ER (wait, I shouldn't abbreviate eigenrobot to that, that is the name of an anti-semitic youtuber), imagines some moment in time when there was no slavery where it had to be invented (see also the weird modern fetishization of inventions we have), which feels to me like inventing a period before we could lift our left arm upwards. And then also conflating all various forms of slavery with chattel slavery (as you mentioned) is just fucking silly. Reasoning from first principles because nobody in your community is a history expert.
E: Got distracted so forgot to mention two other things on why ER is dumb here. First of al it was in some slave taking customs the tradition to castrate slaves (the arab slave trade iirc), so that would still be a genocide with extra steps. And third, even if they didn't castrate people, taking away a whole community in chains, and enslaving them so they stop being that community/culture is still a form of genocide. A genocide is not just 'kill all X'.
Also reminder that ER has a checkmark, and that he prob is doing this for the attention so he can get some of Musks declining cash supplies, so don't interact, and just block. (I at least use an adblocker so I don't see any ads, but I doubt this will stop Musk from charging the advertisers for the blocked ads I don't get to see).
If I had a dollar for every time it turned out some poller influencer went off on the deep end I would have two dollars, not much but etc. In the Netherlands we have a similar type of guy called Maurice de Hond, who also got famous for doing polls (which often slightly differed from other polls) but he has gone quite nutty nowadays, a man I knew who turned into an anti-vaxer was a big fan. (The Hond is also one of those 'I talked about polarization and nobody listened to me!' guys when he has been a regular person on the Dutch TV for ages, thankfully Nate doesn't seem that bad).
Strange how generating a slightly different type of poll causes people to go off into contrarian/bad epistemology land.
E: Me : "doesn't seem that bad" a few moments later A wild bsky skeet arrives (on why this sucks see this thread)
Amazing that this is the one thing they didn't pick up clearly from science fiction (in which the (same) personhood of copies is often debated, and changes from place to place. (The Culture series does a 'this copy isn't conscious, but it is a very good copy of you which totally acts conscious' in some cases, which some people of the Culture don't even believe, so it is up for debate).