Socsa

joined 1 year ago
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

To prevent them from engaging in bad behavior.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

So you can still ban the voting agent. Worst case scenario you have to wait for a single rule breaking comment to ban the user. That seems like a small price to pay for a massive privacy enhancement.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

I don't think you do. Admins can just ban the voting agent for bad voting behavior and the user for bad posting behavior. All of this conflict is imagined.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

This is literally already the Lemmy trust model. I can easily just spin up my own instance and send out fake pub actions to brigade. The method detecting and resolving this is no different.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

It will be extremely obvious if you see 300 user agents voting but the instance only has 100 active users.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But if the only bad behavior is voting and you can that agent then you've solved the core issue. The utility is to remove the bad behavior, no?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Is that really harassment considering Lemmy votes have no real consequences besides feels?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

You don't even need to message an admin. You can just ban the agent doing the voting.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Ok, then you can keep your votes public and other who don't want that have an option as well. Everyone is happy. There is no conflict here.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

In addition to that, I guarantee you that meta and the like are already running data mining instances on here. Being publicly tied to votes is just more telemetry for the machine. I don't quite understand why people seem to think that is no big deal.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Who cares? Generating an infinite number of tokenized identities to facilitate ban evasion will just result in an instance getting defederated. This introduces no real risk as long as the instance is generally abiding by the rules.

Most of us here are fairly anonymous anyway. I dont think being able to add an additional layer of privacy to our activity is really a big deal.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Awesome! This is the exact stopgap implementation I was arguing for, and I'm surprised how many people kept insisting it was impossible. You should try and get this integrated into mainline Lemmy asap. Definitely joining piefed in the meantime though.

 

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