Peasley
joined 7 months ago
Anyone have experience with the Librem 5?
I'd call my experience with Ubuntu touch on a Oneplus 6T (pretty outdated hardware) almost minimum viable. Performance is fantastic but the app ecosystem is pretty skeletal. I'm not sure if voice calling currently works in the USA.
I use it solely as a camera, and for that it might be a tiny bit better than Android. Battery life is much better and photo quality is the same or better as far as i can tell.
Change "fix" for "swap" and that's me
ADHD is a powerful drug. Sometimes the stupid task nobody asked you to do inexplicably needs to be done before anything else.
What's an "open code program"?
That number shows across all versions, regardless if they have been patched or mitigated
If you look on that site at current versions only it looks very different
iOS 18 - 30
iOS 18.1 beta - 0
macOS 11.2.3 - 0
Windows 11 22h2 current patch - 0
Fedora 41 - 1
Android 15 - 7
Ubuntu 23.10 - 2 (for some reason 24.04 and 24.10 are missing)
It's a pretty interesting site!
Lineage gives you a decent app ecosystem (F-droid) with the option to set up Play Store for full Android compatibility
Ubuntu Touch has a very limited ecosystem compared to F-droid, but might be enough for someone willing to do most tasks in a browser.
Stuff like phone calls, pictures, sms, podcasts, music, and other simple tasks will work equally well on either OS assuming your device is supported
My bad it's a 3a
I wonder why test this on an 11 year old phone?
I have it running on a Pixel 3a and it's definitely smooth, but it still stutters once in a while. It feels slower than Android to me, but not much.
Battery life is indeed excellent, though mine doesnt seem to fast charge.
The camera app was the standout feature to me. The pictures i take look every bit as good as those from Android. I expected the app to be clunky or to have bad colors, but that is not the case at all.
Edit: Pixel 3a not 3
Good counterpoint
I just don't see the draw of immutable distros for non power users.
With traditional ubuntu/mint/fedora you have 15+ years of forum posts, tutorials, and community wisdom to help you out if you get stuck. You probably wont need to, but it's nice to be able to just google something and get a dozen good answers. If you want to use containerized apps you also have that option.
Also depending on your taste in gaming, you might need access to stuff outside of steam/lutris/heroic/flathub. In those cases getting your game working could be a bit of a hassle compared to a traditional distro.
I totally see how immutability can be a draw for tinkerers and developers, but for regular users it's solving a problem that doesn't really exist, or is pretty rare if it does.
I also think there is something to say for picking a distro that's been around a long while. Hopefully Bazzite is still around in 10 years. I feel very confident Ubuntu/Mint/Fedora/Pop! still will be.
That said, I'm glad to hear you and your friend are happy with Bazzite. It seems like a really good option if you only play games from steam/heroic/lutris/flathub. A best of both worlds between a PC and a gaming console.
make the most use of the hardware
All distros should do this equally well, and better than Windows
let me play the most games
All distros will be more or less the same. Games generally work or they dont. Check ProtonDB to see which games work and how well.
easiest to use
lowest maintenance possible
This is how distros actually differ.
Some common suggestions:
Ubuntu LTS:
- Upgrade your OS every 2 years
- Proprietary drivers are there if you need them (Nvidia is the only GPU that needs them)
- GNOME shell environment is very beautiful and fast, but very different from Windows
Kubuntu LTS:
- Upgrade your OS every 2 years
- Proprietary drivers are there if you need them (Nvidia is the only GPU that needs them)
- KDE Plasma Desktop is like all the best parts of windows 95/xp/7/10/11 + os9/OSX/macOS combined, improved, and made super customizeable
Ubuntu/Kubuntu current:
- Upgrade your OS every 6 months
- Newer software than LTS
- Otherwise same as LTS
Linux Mint:
- Upgrade your OS every 2 years
- Proprietary drivers are there if you need them (Nvidia is the only GPU that needs them)
- Cinnamon Desktop is a better looking and faster implementation of a Windows 7 style desktop
Fedora
- Upgrade your OS every 9 months (or else)
- Proprietary codecs need to be added after install to play some video and music streams in your browser. It's like 3 commands copy/pasted into the terminal
- Proprietary drivers are there if you need them (Nvidia is the only GPU that needs them)
- Choice of several desktop environments (Fedora spins)
Pop!_OS
- Fun to spell
- Upgrade your OS every 2 years
- Proprietary drivers are there if you need them (Nvidia is the only GPU that needs them)
- Pop_shell makes you feel like a hacker from the future, but is very unlike Windows
I do not reccomend ~~Bazzite~~, Kali, Arch, Manjaro, Garuda, Debian, or Slackware. They are all great distros for specific use-cases, but they are all significantly more work to configure and/or maintain than the suggestions i've outlined.
I haven't tried Nobara so i cant recommend it, but from the outside it looks fine for a gaming desktop.
Edit: I have mixed feelings on Bazzite, but it might also be a good option for someone feeling adventurous
I've mainly used an iPhone 13 and a Pixel 7 pro for comparison, but both have consistently worse cameras than the 6T.
I mostly take close-up photos of plants for iNaturalist, and with both the iPhone and the Pixel i have a very hard time getting it to focus on the right spot long enough to get a good photo. The 6T is much better at maintaining the correct focus IME than either newer phone.
Both the Pixel and the iPhone will frequently try to refocus on something in the background just as I'm framing the shot. I have a third-party camera on the pixel with "manual" focus, but it's not as easy to use as the OP6T. The iPhone is less bad about random focus changes if i'm taking a picture of a flower in good light, but leaves and stems frequently give me trouble.
I also prefer the color balance on the OP6T to that on the Pixel or iPhone. Much more true to life IMO
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