Too early and unorganized.
If they're going to gather at the Whitehouse it needs to be in the Million (min).
If they're going to burn something down it needs to be Mar Lago, not a State house. That's the difference between a riot and an insurrection.
Absolutely batffling...
This is a group of people who feel they've been unfairly made fun of for too long finally getting their revenge.
As always, Simpsons did it...
A couple things:
1). I lowkey expect Coachella to have a pretty good % pretentious rich folk (Trust Fund Babies) who this ain't gonna resonate with from an old white dude.
2). I kinda would have expected AOC instead of Bernie to maybe connect with the younger folk better? But the article says she's trying to reach Neil Young fans? Why aren't these roles reversed?
Look at the division in this thread.
A U.S. President is literally trying to recreate the conditions of 1930s Germany by tanking the economy and isolating us from our international partners.
Stop looking for someone to blame and put out the current dumpster fire before it catches the grease.
Get out and protest. Get your boots on the ground.
The US has a long history of wartime elections.
The US has a long time history of a lot of things that this administration is just ignoring or overstepping so I'm not sure that matters during this time. This is not a normal time in the U.S.
Zelensky was able to legitimately do what he did because a large portion of his country is occupied by foreign forces and he has a positive rating in the unoccupied area.
Absolutely not arguing that. What Zelensky did / is doing is legitimate, I'm not here to argue against that but what I believe Trump see's as an opportunity based on his meetings with Zelensky.
I don't think that matters for what I perceive Trump's goal to be, just based on his past history. I'm thinking back to Covid when he saw that Chlorox info before a briefing and mentioned maybe injecting (or ingesting?) bleach. I believe that he sees Zelenski extend his power due to wartime and I believe he thinks he will be able to do the same. Now he's just looking for an enemy to point the U.S. at.
Imagine another 9/11 happening mixed with a media blitz under the DJT administration. While I don't believe they would be able to pull this off, the thought of the rallying against a specific enemy due to an attack on American soil has a history of rallying the people.
The first step is to remove international dependence on things that we would need for a wartime industry. This is why he's cutting ties with NAFTA allies. We can't have them limiting resources we would need for wartime because they certainly won't agree with what we end up doing. I believe this is why he rallied so hard for Steel workers during his first term too (but failed) to progress this same industry. In the next year or 2 when the factories and industry catches up is when we're going to start to see the visible sparks of war.
To add onto this one more time - I also think that his interactions with Putin plays a role as well. The people of Russia were not able to stop Putin in his war with Ukraine and I believe that DJT thinks he can pull something similar off. This may as well be possible - he has a cult fanbase and the American people aren't rallying against a Billionaire buying politicians and running vote lotteries - I'm not sure anything will rally the American people like we've seen in the past.
It's a slow slippery ride into complacency where things progressively get more illegal and illicit and the headlines come and go too quick for the American people to register. It really is going to be a slow, bloodless revolution from The Right. When the time comes and American is at war with a Foreign power (maybe the Mexican Cartel, which would track with Trumps war on drugs and immigration) the American people will mostly accept it, as they have everything else illicit DJT has done so far in his short term in office.
I agree, Ukraine didn't start the war, but that doesn't change what happened and what I believe Trump's view of it regarding extending his power.
Struggling is a bit much… Sure, it’s going to get there, but current levels are not a struggle.
Hard disagree. It's the 3rd biggest line item in the Budget after Social Security and Medicaid. Even if the Democrats were in office, the debt payments would have been a struggle to get under control - hard choices did need to be made in this regard.
I think people are giving Republicans too much credit. The 3rd term he's talking about is if the U.S. is in the midst of a war - he's literally thinking about what Zelenski did in Ukraine to extend his power / term. I don't see that as a far-fetched idea either. Let's be real, war is money(YouTube Link), and the U.S. is struggling with debt. They pull back trade agreements with allies to reignite national industries for the coming years. They're looking to make somebody an enemy to reignite the economy and retain power. I'd like to think that there's no way to make this work, I'd like to think DJT won't make it past the first few years, but we won't know til' we know.
My tinfoil hat thinks that the White House is the bait. Plants get violent or encourage destruction through mob mentality. Maybe even preplanned destruction just to allow the gathered protesters take the blame. The administration goes on a media rampage, claiming it's worse than Jan 6th - uses it to militarize nationwide against protests, gathering, detractors. This all happens while the economic issues peak, so America is distracted by the media blitz and it happens long enough that they get used to the prices.
Their administration doesn't really care about Washington, The White House, whatever, but Mar Lago 1) isn't a Statehouse and 2) is really Trumps favorite place. It's something I don't think he would sacrifice for gains or a media blitz. The amount of people gathering at Mar Lago instead gets the same messages across without walking into a mousetrap.
On the other hand, a group of a million (min) from all the States would at least ensure a semblance of group cohesion that would make plans and actual peaceful detractors difficult to organize and instigate, assuming the protests are going to happen at the White House. This seems to be what 5051 is gearing toward, and I think it's only the right move if the number of people is correct.
Trump isn't going to give up power easily and he has a league of rich elites (some with foreign ties and gang ties as well) backing him. I don't put sabotage, plants, or setups beneath him or his cronies.