HarkMahlberg

You don't speak for me. Hell I doubt you're capable of speaking for yourself.

Yeah that's what I thought. I'm just not sure the guy above me was aware of that.

We're gonna have to get used to constantly fighting this battle. Fascists don't get exhausted, they never rest. They have an unnatural, compulsive desire to crowbar themselves into everybody's life. Hell, they'll settle for anybody's life.

They'll literally settle for shouting on street corners like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJriMuVEPMY

I question whether people who say that shit are even arguing in good faith.

They never do. Anyone devaluing the best politicians we have on our side, is really only carrying water for fascists.

15 genocides vs 16 genocides

A false dichotomy, but even so, the math is simple. 15 is less than 16. Bad things WILL happen. Let's try to stop at least SOME of them shall we?

And demographically, the biggest swing towards Trump was Latino men. It was like 18%, that seems insane to me. I don't think "eggs and Palestine" is sufficient to explain what happened there.

Not sure I read your comment right, but are you saying. That Tim Walz's and AOC's support for Israel is the single-issue that's stopping Democrats - or at the very least Walz/AOC - from winning elections?

I mean, if it were that easy...

I'm with you. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than being wrong.

I kind of see where you're coming from - there's an imperfect fungibility of bigotry. If you're bigoted against one kind of person, it's not hard to make you bigoted against another, it just takes a little propaganda.

But it's not a secret that young men broke for Trump by over 10%. I attribute that swing to the manosphere podcast circuit working round the clock this past election, and Elon Musk purchasing voters with his "sweepstakes."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Exit_poll

2020, Biden: 81,283,501 2020, Trump: 74,223,975

2024, Harris: 75,017,613 2024, Trump: 77,302,580

These numbers suggest that not only did more people vote for Trump than in 2020, even after living through the fucked COVID response, even after seeing January 6, more people chose not to vote at all. And it's a 50/50 split: Trump converted 3 million votes from Biden, and 3 million more just stayed home.

American people are turning away from the establishment in its entirety.

Biden won 2020, and I think it's safe to say he was fairly establishment.

Edit: And as much as we want to forget, Trump was President of the United States from 2016 to 2020. He IS an establishment candidate. He wants the establishment of an authoritarian fascist regime that unlawfully, violently silences his critics and imprisons or murders the minority group of his choosing.

Call me what you like, but I think you have more in common with me than with MAGA. And if your IFF is malfunctioning, well, I hope you get it checked out soon.

I want AOC to be President, but I think Americans are too sexist to vote for her. We're a callow, superficial people.