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The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas was this for me.

Counterpoint: "Kwaak" is the sound a duck makes, so frogs gotta say something else.

Combative? Take a look in the mirror pal.

I guess I'm ultimately confused about what you're arguing for. My ADHD is by no means "extreme"; trouble focusing at work or school is one of the baseline things you're unlikely to get diagnosed without. I can't imagine any reasonable person advocating for medicating people who don't stand to benefit from it, which seems to be the motte to your bailey.

Hi. I failed out of college, in no small part due to undiagnosed ADHD. I wanna offer a little pushback.

I can't tell if you want to change society to be less punishing to neurodivergent people, or if your whole thesis is "People with ADHD have little to no trouble in society today".

If it's the former: not treating people who are struggling is not the way to change society. Accepting for the sake of argument that ADHD people "pay attention to different things"; paying attention to some things is critical to my ability to thrive. I would love to live in a world where I could just do what I thought was important and still have my needs taken care of, but unfortunately I'm stuck needing to pay attention to stupid bullshit I don't care about in order to make a living, and that's a tremendous struggle without medication.

If it's the latter: Jesus Christ, talk to someone with ADHD.

And finally: I take issue with your metaphor at the end. What do you think is present in an unmedicated person with ADHD that is somehow missing in a medicated person?

Fuck google, of course, but this article is over a year old. Had me panicking for a second when it mentioned the wave of tech worker layoffs.

"Vote with your wallet" also means people with bigger wallets get bigger votes.

I have no idea why people think late-term, abortion-as-contraceptive abortions are a thing.

Have they never known a pregnant person? Seen all the gross and painful shit pregnancy puts someone through? Do they really think people are subjecting their bodies to that for six months... just because???

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Sure! And to be clear, my goal is definitely not to just challenge your faith. The most devout Christian I know IRL is also one of my closest friends.

The reason I feel compelled to jump on biblical slavery apologetics is the impact I worry it can have on people's views and actions in the present day. Slavery still exists, and I fear that arguments defending the slavery that existed under Mosaic law are eerily applicable to modern day trafficking in persons. That it wasn't as bad as the trans-Atlantic slave trade, that it was just indentured servitude, or implicitly that slavery is less reprehensible than murder or theft or lying.

All this being said, I do think the tone of my initial comment and first reply to you was unduly harsh. It comes across more as making fun of Christians than anything else, and that's not cool. I apologize for that, and I'll edit those two linking to this comment to reflect that.

Thanks for the comment. If I may quibble:

and at the time they had many slaves[...]

If memory serves, the Mosaic laws are said to be delivered to the Jews 90 days into their wandering in the desert after crossing the Red Sea. Which means that the people who received these rules about slavery were all recently freed former slaves. Unless they immediately started re-enslaving each other while wandering the desert with manna raining from heaven and water springing up from the rocks, I would think that none of them owned slaves.

[...]something that they wouldn't be willing to change. Instead of this, God commands how to treat these slaves.

That line of reasoning has never sat right with me.

God doesn't want people to kill. He knows people will do it anyway. He doesn't say "Make it quick and painless when you kill someone." He says "Thou shalt not kill."

God doesn't want people to steal. He knows people will do it anyway. He doesn't say "Only steal from people who are well off and can afford to lose some possessions." He says "Thou shalt not steal."

I cannot imagine the guy who tells people to cut some skin off the end of their penis has any problem with making big asks of people.

EDIT: Upon further reflection, I regret the way thus comment targets believers more than it does the problem in question. See: https://lemmy.world/comment/12608950

He said they had told him that although it was a hate crime, it was "unlikely" officers could pursue it further.

Next sentence:

The Met confirmed to the BBC that officers had visited Mr Bromley about the incident and that although no arrests had been made, the force took "reports of hate crime seriously".

Pick one.

Meanwhile, a few chapters later in the same book:

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

TBH I can't blame Christians for being confused about what love looks like if this is what they believe God says.

EDIT: Upon further reflection, I regret the way thus comment targets believers more than it does the problem in question. See: https://lemmy.world/comment/12608950