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Fuck Subscriptions

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I understand this may make sense to some users, but the whole concept of subscribing to games just makes me... Very uneasy. You stop paying, and suddenly your console is an empty paperweight (yiffit.net)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by WhoRoger@lemmy.world to c/fucksubscriptions@lemmy.world

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cross-posted from: https://yiffit.net/post/475688

Xbox Game Pass Core subscribers will get access to a small selection of the games available with the regular/higher tiers of Game Pass, starting with more than 25 games

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2 years ago I had to move to a temp place. First evening, I unpacked my PS3 which I hadn't had time for for a long time. Lots of games on it (and on discs), so I could just sit and play Journey.

Had all my games had been this subscription sort, I'd have nothing.

Now I know you can still buy games - for now, anyway. But since these companies make you pay for multiplayer anyway, it's an easy upsell for them. Just pay a bit more and you can play so many games... Just pay forever.

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[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of the games on gamepass are available for purchase at reasonable prices. Gamepass is a choice for people that want a wide variety of games to play right now for a reasonable price. Maybe one day sony or Microsoft first party games could become sub only but that seems very unlikely given the relatively high selling price of games compared to Blu rays, cds, books, etc... . It's too profitable not to offer them for sale.

This is a very silly argument.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just watch this silly argument become less silly as we first see indie games become exclusive to subs, then an odd MMO, until in 5 years the first MicroVisZard game will be exclusive. There will be outrage of course, but it will die down, people will become tired of protesting, and sub-only games will be the new standard. Just like it always is with every crap these companies pull.

[–] otacon239@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wish Memmy supported bookmarking a specific comment because this would be the first one. These predictions are made time and time again and they prove themselves every time. I absolutely believe we will have at least some subscription exclusive games within 5 years, if that.

[–] deranger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Subscription only games already exist and have existed for a long time.

Ever heard of World of Warcraft, little known indie game

[–] otacon239@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I guess I was picturing single-player AAA titles

[–] Wirrvogel@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see it as a library. I pay a fee, I read as many books as I want, I give them back when I am done, I can get them again if I want to.

What I see as a problem is preservation of games. One day they stop providing a download and then these games are gone for good. Books get preserved by the government(s), games rarely.

I also get free (not F2P) games a week on PC, more than I will ever be able to play in my life and good games too. There is no chance my PC will ever be an empty paperweight, especially not because of backwards compatibility and because legally DRM free games (GOG for example, itch.io etc.) exist that you can even download and store yourself so if your internet is down you can still install them.

Subscription services will start to become a problem once one business has a monopoly and Microsoft is on their way there maybe. But I guess it will work how it is with Netflix. First Netflix was good, then everyone wanted to make their own version of Netflix and now people decide more and more to set sail again, because one subscription might be ok, three or more are not anymore. Game Pass, Nintendo, Ubisoft+, EA, ...