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Do any of them know what the word "liberal" actually means?

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[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Do you know what the word 'liberal' actually means

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This discussion is funny from a German pov, as our main local liberal party (the FDP) is pretty right wing and has been so since the 1940s. "Liberalism" always had a quite neative connotation to me therefore. They are also the party most open to working together with the far right (the AFD).

Liberalism can be right wing or left wing. It makes more sense to structure the political specrum like this. But even that is far from prefect.

[–] Sidyctism@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

Are they? I would say the CDU under Merz is more likely to work with the AfD

[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Open-minded, permissive, tolerant

[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Look rather than dunk on you, I'm going to recommend Mike Duncan's Revolutions podcast, because it gives a fair overview of what the liberal revolutions were about, why socialism grew out of that moment, and how there came to be this irreconciliable beef between liberalism and socialism. The whole thing is great, but 1848 is the real crisis point if all you care about is the schism.

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For a more succinct answer:

It's obviously tongue-in-cheek, but it gets the point across lol

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

A liberal believes capitalism is broken and needs to be fixed.

A socialist believes capitalism is working as intended and needs to be destroyed.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

Pff.. you're way too nice to not be a liberal

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It means you support capitalism, hence why "liberalization of the economy" means selling off public utilities, land, housing, and resources.

[–] mino@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I 'am' an anarcho-communist and I don't like libtards. Libtards to me are 'progressive capitalists' that have no systemic insight what so ever and think all it takes to bring upon heaven on earth is to try and be nice.

I mean, you should try and be nice obviously but you are not going to soy latte your way outta this my dudes.

[–] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Friend I'm not a friend of liberals myself but can we please not use ableistic terms that end with "-tard"?

Reserve that shit for the right wing

[–] mino@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, even though I know this will make no difference to 'you people' (sorry just cannot help myself xD).

In this case I choose to use this specific word because it's so obviously a dogwhistle for right wing extremists that in the context of this meme I think it's funny, since my actual stance is neither authoritarian or rightwing.

I don't seriously mean to perpetuate negative stereotypes with regards to people with mental handicaps.

Just as a curiosity, are you by any chance from the US? I just cannot imagine anyone from Europe making such a big deal about a joke like this, let alone use the term ableist.

I guess my brain has just rotted as a result of a few decades of being on the internet. Inside i'm still an edgy teen apparently. No actual offense meant :)