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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cool. Meanwhile cruise ships and shipping boats continue to contribute to the vast majority of emissions.

As long as they continue to exists it will make zero difference what kind of car or bike you drive.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Superfreighters are among the most efficient form of transport. It can be more eco friendly to import even fresh water than using difficult to access water. Same goes for exotic fruit, like tomatoes etc.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yet they contribute more to emissions than cars ever could. A single trip across the world outputs more emissions than all the cars in the world in a single year. Except there are dozens of those ships making trips daily.

In other words you taking your bike over your car makes virtually zero difference in the grand scheme. If everyone stopped driving cars over night the effect it would have would only be a tiny percentage of what shipping freighters contribute.

[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

Mate, you should leave your emotions out of these kind of discussions. It'll just have the opposite effect of what you'd like. Please stick to the facts.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've honestly been considering giving up my car for an electric scooter for the summer - my wife will keep her car, so we can still go to places with the family, but I don't need a car for my work commute. At the same time, I'm too lazy to wake up early enough to walk.

Helps that I live in a medium sized European town. Escooters and bikes are very viable - and you can rent them for a low fee too, from multiple providers (I do wish they didn't each require their own app, but of course they do).

[–] amelia@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do it! Just think of all the insurance, gas and repair money you'll save.

I'd personally advise for an e bike rather than a scooter since it's more versatile and allows you to put bags on it to transport stuff, but that's personal preference of course.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's no cargo scooters?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

E-bikes are probably around 100 times more economical than e-cars so it makes sense that they are much more impactful simply because so many more people can afford them.

[–] cron@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The raw electricity usage is ~25 times lower for E-Bikes. And that is not counting in the 2 ton weight difference with all this steel, battery cells, electronics etc.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The initial cost too. U can get an ebike for like 1500€ but u gotta pay like 60000€ or more for an electric car. Also insurance, maintainance, parking, etc

[–] ptman@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just read about an Chinese (maybe govt subsidised) EV for 15 000 USD. Even in EU you're starting to see 35k€ EVs

[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, BYD is massively subsidized by the government, mainly to try to destroy the western EV market. I'm really on the fence on that one. On the one hand, I'd like our car Industry to be a bit more disruptive and come up with cheaper solutions (fuck SUVs, the German car Industry is just making huge luxury cars that are way too expensive, both capex and opex wise). On the other hand, I don't want Winny the Pooh gaining influence on the west.