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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 158 points 3 months ago (1 children)

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will **believe a big lie **sooner than a little one; and **if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it. **

https://phdn.org/archives/www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/osssection3pt1.htm

[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 168 points 3 months ago (17 children)

I never understood how normal, kind Germans in the 1920s could be so brainwashed that they'd turn into monsters just a few years later.

Now I've lived through it and seen the same transformation within my own family. It's incredibly sad.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 64 points 3 months ago
[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 50 points 3 months ago

"Nice people made the best Nazis. My mom grew up next to them. They got along, refused to make waves, looked the other way when things got ugly and focused on happier things than “politics.” They were lovely people who turned their heads as their neighbors were dragged away. You know who weren’t nice people? Resisters." - Naomi Shulman

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

It's very much like how people have created cults, slowly pushing the boundaries people will accept, while also claiming to be the authority of everything and accept no blame. And people crave a sense of belonging, and community. By the time people find out they are following a monster they are so far down the wrong path they feel trapped and it's the path of least resistance to just go with it. Also an example is made of anyone trying to rock the boat.

Was an episode of The Dollop (podcast) about a teacher that created a cult of his students to show them this exact scenario (how everyday Germans got behind Hitler). I'll look it up later if nobody beats me to it before then.

Edit - nevermind found it faster than I thought I would.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not just like how people created cults, it's the exact same recipe. They are cults. I have a friend who is obsessed with true crime podcasts about cults, like, listened to the final recordings of the Jonestown massacre where you can hear people dying from cyanide poisoning in the background obsessed, and he was recently telling me how both Trump and Hitler's speeches sound exactly like Jim Jones.

[–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Can confirm. I'm currently listening to Transmissions From Jonestown and had this very same thought the other day. I haven't heard many Hitler speeches but the rambling cadence of Jones and Trump are eerily similar.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That was a good watch. Wasn't planning on taking nearly an hour and a half out of my day on a random video, but it was super interesting so I couldn't stop!

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I also find the stories of people that have attempted to go undercover to document and eventually report out the inner works of a cult, only to be sucked in and disavow their prior life.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 2 points 3 months ago

45mins into this talk about a guy that was a private investigator that did cult information gathering. Very interesting, able to give real examples of stuff he had to do to stay undercover. It's pretty wild!

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[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And i still don't understand it, even if I'm seeing it happen live with my own two eyes

There really is something wrong

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I never believed Republicans could be this stupid. I mean... Following George W Bush, such an obvious moron... He at least had some charisma, some decency in him...

But Trump is a pure garbage human being. From inside and out, I couldn't point to a single admirable trait of the fucker.

And that is who these morons cheer for.

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[–] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mocking others he disliked

This video exists And honestly that should have been the end of the campaign.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 44 points 3 months ago

The only time Trump ever told the truth was when he said "I could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any supporters" all he would have to do is say they were a pedo Democrat and he'd gain support...

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 3 months ago (11 children)

So just like any extreme narcissist?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's one in specific I think you know is being referred to. And not the one in the photo, one that is, unfortunately, alive today.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I actually thought of Musk first but Trump or Putin or any other dictator probably also fits. Generally most high level politicians are probably like this, but maybe to varying degrees of severity.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is Putin considered petty?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is my answer to that question:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_notable_Russians_(2022%E2%80%932024)

Putin really likes windows for his "suicides" apparently.

Also the wording of "special military operation" is the peak of pettiness.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You could certainly make that argument, even though this meme wasn't talking about Putin.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-vladimir-putin-stole-a-super-bowl-ring-from-the-patriots-robert-kraft/

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

If anyone has evidence that hitler wore 6" lifts, a girdle and diapers I'll have bingo!

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