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Lingva & Simply Translate are two different front-ends to Google Translate. I’m not running the software myself because I run Argos locally (for privacy), but when Argos gives a really bad translation I resort to Lingva and Simply Translate instances.

I tried to translate a privacy policy. Results:

Lingva instances:

  • translate.plausibility.cloud ← goes to lunch
  • lingva.lunar.icu ← gives “414 Request-URI Too Large”
  • lingva.ml & lingva.garudalinux.org ← fuck off Cloudflare! Obviously foolishly purpose defeating to surreptitiously expose people to CF who are trying to avoid direct Google connections.
  • translate.igna.wtf ← dead
  • translate.dr460nf1r3.org ← dead

Simply Translate instances (list of instances broken for me but found a year-old mirror of that):

  • simplytranslate.org ← just gives a blank
  • st.tokhmi.xyz ← up but results are just CSS garbage
  • translate.bus-hit.me (ST fork mozhi) ← shoots a blank result
  • simplytranslate.pussthecat.org ← redirects to mozhi.pussthecat.org
  • mozhi.pussthecat.org (ST fork mozhi) ← shoots a blank result
  • translate.projectsegfau.lt (ST fork mozhi) ←translates the first word then drops the rest; this instance is incorrectly listed as Lingva
  • translate.northboot.xyz ← up but results are just CSS garbage
  • st.privacydev.net ← up but results are just CSS garbage
  • tl.vern.cc ← up but results are just CSS garbage

~~It looks as if Simply Translate is not keeping up with Google API changes.~~ (edit: actually the CSS garbage is what we get when feeding it bulky input -- those instances work on small input)

graveyard of dead sites:

  • simplytranslate.manerakai.com ← redirects to vacated site
  • translate.josias.dev
  • translate.riverside.rocks
  • translate.tiekoetter.com
  • simplytranslate.esmailelbob.xyz
  • translate.slipfox.xyz
  • translate.priv.pw
  • st.odyssey346.dev
  • fyng2tsmzmvxmojzbbwmfnsn2lrcyftf4cw6rk5j2v2huliazud3fjid.onion
  • xxtbwyb5z5bdvy2f6l2yquu5qilgkjeewno4qfknvb3lkg3nmoklitid.onion
  • translate.prnoid54e44a4bduq5due64jkk7wcnkxcp5kv3juncm7veptjcqudgyd.onion
  • simplytranslate.esmail5pdn24shtvieloeedh7ehz3nrwcdivnfhfcedl7gf4kwddhkqd.onion
  • tl.vernccvbvyi5qhfzyqengccj7lkove6bjot2xhh5kajhwvidqafczrad.onion
  • st.g4c3eya4clenolymqbpgwz3q3tawoxw56yhzk4vugqrl6dtu3ejvhjid.onion

Why this is a bug


Frond-ends and proxies exist to circumvent the anti-features of the service they are facilitating access to. So if there is a volume limitation, the front-end should be smart enough to split the content into pieces, translate the pieces separately, and reassemble. In fact that should be done anyway for privacy, to disassociate pieces of text from each other.

Alternatively (and probably better), would be to have a front-end for the front-ends. Something that gives a different paragraph to several different Lingva/ST instances and reassembles the results. This would (perhaps?) link a different IP to each piece assuming the front-ends also proxy (not sure if that’s the case).

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[–] pop@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

So if there is a volume limitation, the front-end should be smart enough to split the content into pieces, translate the pieces separately, and reassemble. In fact that should be done anyway for privacy, to disassociate pieces of text from each other

They're both opensource afaik, so have a go at it.

Alternatively (and probably better), would be to have a front-end for the front-ends. Something that gives a different paragraph to several different Lingva/ST instances and reassembles the results. This would (perhaps?) link a different IP to each piece assuming the front-ends also proxy (not sure if that’s the case).

Sure, would love to see your project on this. Thanks in advance. Any ETA?