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So I look in the modlog from time to time. There's been some actions I've seen that I don't agree with, but there is no way to see the context, so I've never spoke up. But today I saw something that concerned me. I'm just going to copy/paste the modlog so you see what I see.

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community >Technology@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community >Indiana@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod Banned

AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community >Chat@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community Socialist Rifle >Association@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community >Antifascism@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community >Michigan@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community Lord of the >memes@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community Ohio@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community United States | >News & Politics@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community The >Onion@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community Religious >Cringe@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community >Iowa@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community >Memes@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community >Minnesota@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year mod

Banned >AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet from the community Food Crimes - >Offenses against >nutrition@midwest.social reason: Lib expires: in 1 year

I don't know who this guy is, or who the mod is, but essentially this guy is getting banned for being liberal.

Or am I misreading the situation???

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[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Each instance gets to be its own fiefdom to an extent. If you're shitty enough to a wide enough audience or you tolerate shitty users you might be defederated, but for the most part as a mod you get to decide the rules for your server.

In this particular instance the mod decided to ban someone for whatever reason, maybe it was being a lib, maybe they were annoying a mod, it doesn't really matter.

The cool thing is that you can avoid the instance if you want, or block it so you don't have to see anything from it, or start your own instance with blackjack... And hookers. The options are unlimited.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So you're saying there's no holding mods accountable for their actions. We can only leave.

Seems like thats counter intuitive to growing Lemmy.

[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Just leave the instance, not the fed. It can be seen to help grow it. You're free to start your own instance and allow/disallow anyone for any reason. Remember that there isn't 1 Lemmy. It's not like reddit where there's one site. It's more like a whole shitton of very similar sites that overlap. So one rogue mod is messing up a News, just ban that instance and find another one.

[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

It's counterintuitive to growing an instance maybe.

The whole idea is that there is no centralization.

It (the fediverse) is de-centralized.

The point is that there's no one entity in charge.

You don't have to leave the fediverse because you don't like an instance. You're free to start your own communities and/or instances anywhere else, no one is obligated to tolerate anyone and everyone in their space.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

you’re only ignoring/blocking/locking yourself out of one tiny piece of the Fediverse, the rest of Lemmy is still available to you – whereas if you had run afoul of Reddit, the entirety of Reddit becomes inaccessible, not just one particular sub

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I banned them for reporting a post about killing nazis for being against site rules (it's not) and for the offending post "glorifying violence". I don't need that neolib shit on this instance. I did not know it was going to list every community on this instance they're now banned from in the modlog.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Had the user reported stuff like that before and been told specifically that it wasn't rule-breaking? Jumping straight to banning someone who may have genuinely thought they were being helpful seems like an unfair extreme response.