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[–] 312@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is Musk’s “Reichstag Fire” moment for Twitter.

The rate limiting is not because of “extreme manipulation”, but because of piss-poor code that Twitter deployed as part of their change to only allow tweets to be viewed if logged in. Twitter is effectively DDoSing itself right now. But, it creates an opportunity for Musk to create a narrative.

These “temporary” limits will probably remain inevitably, as they provide another benefit to Twitter - they drive Blue subscriptions. Unfortunately, they also repel free users from using the platform entirely, and at a much higher ratio.

Twitter is going to become even more of a cesspool than it already is at an alarming rate. Crazy how many established social media platforms have decided to crumble at the exact same time.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh my god, this is just too funny.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"The DDOS is coming from INSIDE the HOUSE!"

[–] coldv@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find it especially bizarre that spez took inspiration and guidance from Musk. I can entertain the possibility of Musk intentionally driving Twitter to the ground (though he sure is taking the scenic route), but Reddit? It just seems like the rich tech bros have collectively lost their minds

[–] swnt@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I'd love a self ddos of Reddit at this point tbh

[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I gave up on Twitter when this turd took over but holy shit...

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are rumors that Twitter is having a dispute with its cloud providers, that is why they need to limit bandwidth.

[–] SirCrate@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No rumor, they outright refuse to pay bills

So much for capitalism

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Refuse to pay bills for your clouds infrastructure.

Refuse to pay rent for your offices.

Big brain time.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twitter was an important unifying communications tool during the Arab Spring. The Arab spring was a threat to biz as usual in places like Saudi Arabia. The second largest investor in Twitter is Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia killed and dismembered a journalist from the US, more or less in plain sight. Elon is now killing and dismembering Twitter in plain sight to limit its power as a unifying tool that stands as a demonstrable, active threat to capitalism and oligarchs around the world.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires. It's part of why spez is trying to tank Reddit. Remember how dangerous Reddit was to capitalism's status quo around the time of GME/Robinhood/Antiwork recently.

The specific moment we're in right now is meant to shatter consolidated organizing power on Reddit as we splinter into several smaller alternative platforms (or for some, disconnect entirely). Not saying we shouldn't be in Lemmy, but calling out the larger reality of the moment.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires.

[–] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey I see you're commenting from lemmy.world, since yesterday I've had troubles opening links, viewing posts and images, and posting comments. Are you having the same issues? I wasn't even able to open this post on my lemmy.world account

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.world gained 40%+ users on July 1st alone.

Methinks the servers are melting from #RedditBlackout.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

That's happening all around. I'm actually impressed that Lemmy still works that well. Reddit/Twitter would be in burning ruins if the daily active users multiply by a factor of 20 within a few weeks. And they aren't run by a bunch of hobbyists doing this in their spare time, like most instances are.

[–] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Image Transcription: Twitter Post:


Elon Musk, @elonmusk

To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we've applied the following temporary limits

  • Verified accounts are limited to reaching 6000 posts/day
  • Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
  • New unverified accounts to 300/day

^I'm a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

If you'd install the "show karma" user script, you might cause an integer overflow. Immensely good work that you are doing.

[–] TwoFace211@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? Who reads over 6000 tweets a day?

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Bots and people scrolling a lot.

300 tweets is nothing, so essentially new users are limited to very casual reading.

Don't forget, that just clicking/tapping on a tweet opens the discussions about that tweet which in turn are each separate tweets. So opening a single, controversial tweet you actually want to read, might easily result in 20 read tweets as far as the API is concerned.

[–] Ranessin@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Lemmy, KBin and Mastodon fullfil all the needs for online news outside of dedicated news sites for me by now, Twitter is something I haven't used directly for months now.

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Transcription for the blind: Screenshot of a Twitter post from Elon Musk, Twitter handle @elonmusk, that says:

To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we've applied the following temporary limits:

  • Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
  • Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
  • New unverified accounts to 300/day

1:01 PM Jul 1, 2023 3.6M Views

-Transcription from a human volunteer. Let me know how I can do better.

[–] PoppinKREAM@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank you for the transcription, human volunteer :)

The sequence of events from Elon Musk acquiring Twitter to now is an incredible journey.

  • Elon Musk bought a social media company for tens of billions, attempted to back out of the deal but couldn't because of his ineptitude by signing away the ability to reneg on the deal.^[1]

  • Then there was the freedom of speech advocacy from Musk where he ultimately unbanned racists and then he began sharing bigoted Tweets. But it's only freedom of speech for his bigoted supporters, when authoritarian governments ask Musk to censor people/tweets he abides by their requests.^[2]

  • The site becomes inundated with the alt right rife with bigotry.^[3]

  • The whole verified blue check mark debacle where verification became something you could pay for, with people making fake "official" accounts. For example a fake account impersonating a pharmaceutical company caused their stock to drop abruptly following a joke tweet.^[4]

  • Twitter engages in mass layoffs and multiple things break on the site. There are also reports that they can't pay rent in certain locations. Twitter is hemorrhaging advertisors, as they record a 59% reduction in advertising revenue.^[5]

  • Elon Musk posts tweets seemingly apologizing for some of the changes and says he will follow the will of the people by posting polls for users to vote on policy changes. Musk asks if he should step down, to which the majority vote in favour of his removal. He then goes on a tirade about bots after losing in the poll. He goes on to say that only paid subscribers will be permited to vote in future polls. Vox Populi, Vox Dei.^[6]

  • The crème de la crème is Elon Musk implementing a new restriction where you have to be logged in to see tweets. Inadvertently DDOSing his own site.


  1. New York Times - Why Elon Musk Can’t Back Out of Buying Twitter, According to Twitter

  2. Forbes - Twitter Has Complied With Almost Every Government Request For Censorship Since Musk Took Over, Report Finds

  3. The Atlantic -Twitter Is a Far-Right Social Network

  4. Forbes - Fake Eli Lilly Twitter Account Claims Insulin Is Free, Stock Falls 4.37%

  5. New York Times - Twitter’s U.S. Ad Sales Plunge 59% as Woes Continue

  6. The Guardian - Elon Musk breaks silence after 10 million Twitter users vote for him to step down

[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How does not letting logged-in account access tweet end up DDDosing the site?

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

The other reply seems more informed, but I'll share another technical practice that would lead to increased load and thus risk of DDoS in general (I hadn't heard of this change and issue of Twitter before reading about it here):

Delivering webpages without a logged-in user means you can cache (remember) commonly returned data and pages. You can repeatedly deliver the same thing.

For logged-in users, this is not the general case. A logged-in user has follows, blocks, and adjusted content selection. So rather than deliver a "standard view" a "user view" has to be generated.

[–] freundTech@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They blocked access in the back end, but didn't adjust the frontend to deal with this situation.

If you try to access twitter while not logged in the frontend requests tweets from the backend, gets an error response and therefore tries again around 10 times per second.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago