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Vance eviscerates 'Soviet'-style European censorship in address to Munich Security Conference (www.foxnews.com)

submitted 2 months ago by Mentors@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org to c/conservative@lemm.ee

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[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The whole meeting was about ending the war on Ukraine without giving in to ruzzia, and to talk about Europe spending more in defense ( which would benefit the US defense industry, and US workers) but couchfucker went on a pointless off-topic rant like a weird uncle at Thanksgiving. It was entirely for US media consumption so Americans can be proud the vice presidents being tough on those dang ole European panseys.

And look! Many very stupid people are eating it up. Don't be fooled by that bullshit, it's all theatre.

[+] Bloomcole@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, yes you are 100% right. It is effortless to make a moral case against the defense industry as a whole and against the corporate-money worshipping, genocide participant right-of-center liberal democrats in specific, and I am not here to defend either of those.

And yes, we know the Ukrainians are not all angels. There no reason to doubt the accusations of nazism and human rights violations against the azov brigade. But interesting- Azov gets brought up so much in ruzzian propaganda, it seems funny to focus on during a discussion of the bullshit antics of the US vice president.

The point here is that during a meeting to discuss the defence of Ukranian civilians against a foe that bombed a maternity and children's hospital as one of the first things on their to-do list, Vance goes off on a unhinged tirade about free speech.

The point here is that our neighbors and relations are being so easily tricked by this theatre- they say "Oh gosh he tells it like it is!"

The point is, no he's not.

Even for those who think that other nations purchasing US-made military equipment and armaments, thereby contributing the the US economy and creating jobs and opportunities for American citizens (remember part of the agenda for this meeting was to talk about Europe defense spending) is a good thing, well sorry! Vance undermined that too.

I don't want anyone to read that "article" and think: Gee! He makes some good points! Because he doesn't.

[+] Bloomcole@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh I see. A pro-russian propagandist. Ok I won't use a z for россия if it annoys you.

Well listen man, I'd be super interested to get your perspective on that Budapest memorandum thing that russia signed promising not to "threaten or use military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan..." It seems like when you break a big promise like that in a consistent, persistent, and intentional way then people (and nations) shouldn't trust you. But what do you think?

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[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well, I feel like you're not really addressing my question in good faith man. I am asking about a specific thing and you are pointing fingers in every other direction. Stop trying to make the case that россия is so hard done by, this is a deflection and not an actual answer.

Anyway this thing about the vice president is really 100% a domestic political issue and simply more proof that the current reĝime must be removed. Edit: and absolutely not to be replaced with democrats, thats for damned sure.

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And just because I have time right now I'd like to address this:

"a foe that bombed a maternity and children’s hospital as one of the first things on their to-do list" See that's exactly the propaganda you've been spoonfed. They have zero benefit in doing this. A clear false flag done by the Banderites.

Ok firstly, On 9 March 2022, the Russian air force bombed the Maternity Hospital No. 3 in Mariupol. It was in the news. On March 10 the Russian minister of foreign affairs and ministry of defense said the bombing was justified beclause there were soldiers in there or some bullshit. Also in the news. So I don't think it was a false flag operation, since Russian government officials admitted it happened and tried to justify it.

Secondly, "Banderites". Banderites? I won't go into the history too much, but this word has been used by russians as an insult to refer to ukranian people for years. You know who talks about "banderites" all the time? Russian state media does. This is used to mean any person that thinks Ukraine is a sovereign nation separate from russia. Look it up, random reader, you'll see its true.

You don't hear French people or Portugese or Dutch or any other kind of European person say "banderite". The only people you hear using the word as a pejorative for Ukrainians is Russians.

Your language gave you away, кацапы.

[+] Bloomcole@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok I could be wrong. If that's the case then I apologize.

But then can you explain to me why a Belgian is showing up in an community focused on American conservatives and laying out the arguements that:

Ukraine is entirely filled with nazis who attack hospitals and children just to make russia look bad
US democrats are connected to those nazis
russia is the real victim in all this

And your justification for these assertions amounts to LOL WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

Maybe you can clarify:

why don't American nazis seem to have any love for ukrane? Wouldn't they want to protect their nazi bredren?
why does it seem that you, as well our American nazis here at home, appear to repeat Russian state media talking points?
this is off topic but I have always wondered: why is Belgian national identity tied up in a sculpture of a little naked peeing boy?

Thanks for any help with these questions.