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Why do people say "Catholics and Christians" in (USA) when Catholics are also Christians, as if they refer to it as a different religion. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Hextubewontallowme@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Is this some sort of remnant of evangelical puritan protestant ideology?

I don't understaun this.

If you ask me, it'd make as much sense as Orthodox and Christians.... or Shia and Muslim...

I know not all Christians are Catholics but for feck's sake...

They're all Christians to me....

Edit:

It's a U.S thing but this is the sort of things I hear...

https://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

I am a Catholic. Why should I consider becoming a Christian?

I now know more distinctions (apparently Catholicism requires duty and salvation is process, unlike Protestantism?) but I still think they're of a similar branch (Christianity) so I just wonder the social factor

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[+] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] toastus@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is totally new to me.

Can you give me one or two of those many definitions for my understanding?

[+] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] toastus@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Catholicism is the church of Paul, and isn't strictly monotheistic, trinitarianism and unitarianism aside.

That is just plain wrong, no two ways about it.

To me it sounds like you listened to some protestant that doesn't care much for the catholic church and just repeat his rant without questioning it much.

And don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less about christian infighting. I was just curious about the reasoning how the catholic church, which is one of the oldest and most "original" christian churches, could be considered not christian at all.
After your post I don't believe there is much basis to this claim at all.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

This might be a regional thing. At least in Germany, where the reformation took place, the term Christian include all groups, protestans, catholics, orthodox etc.

[–] EunieIsTheBus@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

If you believe your religion is the only correct one, you'll make sure to distance yourself from other variants even of the same faith.

America is far from Europe and if there are people believing the US is the pinnacle of creation and Trump reincarnated Jesus himself, that phrase will eventually come up and stick