Any FF that uses real-time combat is not a real FF game. The series died with X.
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Nostalgia creates some massive rose-tinted glasses.
I've used to love FFVIII as a teenager and decided to buy it again for the Switch last year, but I legit couldn't progress more than a ten-minute-interval without either cringeing at the characters or being angry about them in some way. Why are they all so edgy? Why are their decisions always so incredibly stupid? I eventually realized that the characters are basically what a 12 year old would consider to be cool adults when in reality they're absolutely immature in every aspect.
I really really tried to complete at least one playthrough again in the hopes that it would eventually get better, but snapped when the oh-so-mighty martial arts character, who had been showing off his melee skills in every effing cutscene, flat-out forgot that he has been fighting literal demons with his bare hands for the entire effing game only to realize AFTER a multiple day long imprisonment that he could just slap the guards around without having to get a weapon first. FFS how do you forget such a thing for longer than a week?!
I guess the same kinda applies to FFVII because everyone I know who had played the game when it initially released still thinks it's THE best FF game to date and they're usually very very vocal about that opinion, and everyone who didn't play it "back in the day" just couldn't understand what was so great about it. I'm in the latter group BTW. I'm all for letting people enjoy what they want and I won't try to ruin anyone's fun with a game they like, but I am convinced that a huge portion of that hype is nothing more than nostalgia.
FF9 had better characters and story than FF7
FF8 was underrated and deserved better
FF7 is immensely overrated.
FF9 was the worst of the PS1 games. Fight me.
Fight me.
Alright, Aldi parking lot. No kicking!
I'd personally would put 7 at the bottom and the top spot for me would be a toss up between 8 and 9.
Aldi it is, I can pick myself up some cheese while I'm there.
I love 7, like really love it but even I can admit it's overrated. 8 is solid though, underrated in my opinion.
Alright, could use some milk too.
7 never clicked for me at all. Never had the patience to play through it. 8 definitely was severly underrated, but I think I'm seeing a lot more appreciation for it lately.
Can we stop by M&S as well? They do some nice cookies.
Yeah, 8 is definitely getting more love and appreciation these days. 7 did a lot of cool things, but it also did a lot of terrible things. I've played the first 20 hours of 7 many, many times but never actually completed it more than a few times. 8 always brings me back.
M&S
Had to google what that is, isn't that a clothing cchai? I doubt they have cookies.
I never completed 7,, I don't think I ever made it through the first disc. My sister played through it. 8 and 9 I simply loved to play. And even nowadays, while I don't have the old games anymore, I like to watch content for 8 and 9, but I can't stand watching 7 at all. As I said, it never clicked for me, I can't stand it.
They do have a clothing range, but they also have a slightly upmarket store and have some particularly nice biscuits. My favourites are the Dark Chocolate and Lime jaffa cakes, which I know aren't technically biscuits but all the same they're delicious.
I think it's completely fair to say that the writing got a lot better in 8 and 9 than 7 had. 7 was janky all over the place, which I guess is part of its charm but 8 definitely felt a bit more grown up. Though for me, 9 was quite forgettable in that regard, but perhaps that's because it has been a couple of decades since I last actually tried it.
What I like about 9 is that it starts of as just a whimiscal adventure. And they severly cut back on the edgy writing, that's a huge plus in my book too.
Also, I just love the character design, Vivi (the black mage) in particular.
FF7 is laughably overrated.
The best Final Fantasy game is the one Final Fantasy game I played as a kid.
When Squaresoft became Square Enix, the company died and took Final Fantasy with it and the first game they launched was a creepy fan service character assassination of a story.
I honestly found it degrading going from vibrant story criticizing religion and tradition to playing harem dress up in skimpy clothes with three teenage girls in a story that honestly feels like it doesn't go anywhere. It's just creepy things happening with weird unlikeable overly sexualized characters and if you complete all the to-do list you get the ending you want in the most contrived way possible.
Oh yeah Yuna gets with Tidus because she asks the fayth. The whole Vegnagun thing and all the half naked people and guys with greasy haircuts and people horny for the main chacters are irrelevant.
That was the first Squeenix entry?!
Yeah. Final Fantasy X was Squaresoft and Final Fantasy X-2 was Square Enix. You can see the whole difference in design from the two companies.
FFX-2 was Square as well. It was developed by a Square team and released by Square in Japan, not SquareEnix. In fact, it was the last Square Final Fantasy game to be released. This is all easily verifiable on Wikipedia, as well.
The truth is that this was the direction they wanted to take the X universe, even had the same Director and everything.
Oh wow, i always thought the merger/spirits within failure was the cause of the crappyfication of the final fantasy x game and all the terrible ones after it. I guess something else then.