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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Everyone just keeps acting like its normal

That's a common trope in dystopian settings.

The youngest people in the society don't understand that anything is even wrong. The rich folks have a vested interest in people being more afraid of foreigners and domestic terrorists than any government malfeasance. And the working class is so occupied with simple survival that they see no real opportunity to revolt... until something really falls off the rails, at which point the military moves in to suppress dissent with maximum bloodshed.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Thats the point at which you have to close that window to the world and focus on your own.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Potential convicted felon president with many active indictments looking to give himself blanket immunity for all crime and appointing himself dictator president for life. All while every year is the hottest year on record, there isn't enough housing, actually nazis feel safe to actively demonstrate in public, a million less Americans are alive post COVID and all of the world's wealth is split between 7 people and all the world's companies owned by 4 parent companies...

What the fuck are you talking about dystopian?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that many commenting can’t be bothered to look up the definition of dystopia. The laziness and failure to learn is what makes this dystopian.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

hello strawperson argument

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks for proving my point.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, this system absolute madness only equaled by the madness of the mass tolerance of it.

And NOT the fun weekend bender kind of madness I haven't had time for in years due to capitalist exploitation.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

Yeah. Your free time is very limited by the fact you live under capitalism and not magic fairy dust.

I mean, compared to all the other economic systems, capitalism provides more leisure time. But compared to magical fantasy circumstances, capitalism’s a drag.

[–] cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What kind of bootstrap conservative rhetoric is that? I'm powerless to stop oil companies and billionaires and whatall.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Then keep complaining. Someone else might do it instead

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm too broke to worry about much more then working enough to feed myself and afford my shitty apartment for another month.

[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

So what your saying is the system is working as intended.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I’ve read history. I know what actual dystopian nightmares look like. We’re not in one.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

History does not only repeat, and simply looking at the past can make you blind to the novel ways society has transformed. For example, oppression has been a constant throughout history, but it never has been as faceless as it is today. Lords and kings have been replaced by corporations and agencies operating across borders, in ways and with purposes that I don't think anyone who's not actually involved with can claim they fully understand.

[–] Censored@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You really think oppression is more faceless now than before the existence of cameras? What was the odds that a medieval peasant knew what the King looked like? Or that a slave in Egypt knew the face of the Pharaoh?

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Maybe they could never see the actual pharaoh, but what I'm saying is that "The Pharaoh" was itself the "face" of power, and also where power and influence actually resided. Now we have surveillance and propaganda perpetuated by either known but opaque actors (e.g. governmental agencies, corporations) or simply unknown ones. You can believe or not in an international "elite" conspiracy, but by that I also mean random teen hacker groups, data brokers, gov agencies of nations other than the one you live in, etc.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Things can always get worse" is a pretty shit justification to say things aren't bad now.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No-one is saying that all is fine. Yes, there are loads of big issues right now, but we're still living better and safer than 99% of all the humans that have ever lived. We are not living Ina dystopian world.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  • “We are not living in a dystopian nightmare”
  • ”The fact that things can always get worse justifies a lack of effort to make things better”
  • ”All is fine”

These are three different statements. Not the same thinfs.

Can we fucking stop with the sloppy quoting? Nobody in this thread is responding to what anybody else is actually saying.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

I literally didn't quote anyone

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Things are NOT bad now.

[–] fantasty@programming.dev -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Someone in Gaza would disagree right now.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and Jews in WWII would disagree with you.

It's always easy to find a very specific group of people that are having a horrible time, that doesn't mean that on average, humans live better and safer than in the entire history of humanity. Sure, the last 10 years saw a bit of a down turn, but thing are still way better than, say, 40 years ago.

I guess it's hard to remember how really hard life could be

[–] fantasty@programming.dev -1 points 3 months ago

Idk man it’s really not a competition. AI powered automated genocide and industrialized genocide are both horrible in their own way and to me absolutely dystopian nightmares. Same way how China uses AI to track every aspect of their citizens lives + also genocide.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago