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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I do industrial automation for a living, and I just want to point out that automating things that exist purely in the digital domain is far easier than automating things like ship breaking.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

[...] I just want to point out that automating things that exist purely in the digital domain is far easier than automating things like ship breaking.

Not that you're saying otherwise, however isn't that even more of a reason more developers and resources should be allocated toward automating complex and risky physical processes?

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don't see how you would do it without general AI, which is something that will be solved in the digital domain first anyway.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Eh, it could be done with non-general AI. There are a finite number of different types of things to handle, so as long as it's not thrown off by some bent steel or some missing consoles, I'd be amazed if they couldn't automate at least specific ship designs.

[–] epyon22@programming.dev 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They still manually build ships right now what makes you think they could automate taking one apart

[–] riskable@programming.dev -1 points 5 months ago

Firstly, much of shipbuilding is automated. They use robots to paint them and apply anti-fouling coatings. They also use loads and loads of automated machinery to create the steel parts that make up most of the ship. Do you think some dudes are forging rivets, beams, and pipes by hand? No, those are made by machines that make zillions of them.

Secondly, nearly every ship--even ships that seem generic like big container ships--is a custom, one-off thing. They're all bespoke (for the most part), being engineered for specific purposes, routes, and they even have "upgrades" for companies that pay extra (e.g. nicer quarters, extra antenna masts, more and special equipment mounting options, etc).

[–] Opafi@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago
[–] Opafi@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

Mentioned it in another comment already... People already do this with robotics and ai

https://www.leviathan.eu/

[–] suction@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He's right, why haven't people started working on digitalized ship breaking.....algorithms?

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Algorithms are fundamental for physical tasks as well. Robotics has been around for many decades, with some infrastructure and the right algos I'm sure it could be tackled, whatever ship breaking is.