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[–] realcaseyrollins@narwhal.city 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually surprised that it's that high too

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Use this as a chance to leave your echo chamber. Illegal immigration is deeply unpopular, just like banning abortion, or firearm regulation.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That is one area I diverge with the party. Abortion should be legal. Based on the voting, most republicans agree it should be legal. Based on polls, they don’t.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@wintermute_oregon @ryathal Banning abortion beyond the first trimester is popular IIRC

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I view body autonomy as a right. Nothing is more sacred than choosing what’s best for you

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not at all but one of the most basic rights to control of your own body.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

@wintermute_oregon My problem is when you use your own body to harm another body, like a 6 year old child, or a fetus

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Six year old children are never aborted. A fetus is just a lump of cells. Either people have body autonomy or they don’t.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@wintermute_oregon We're all a lump of cells. Doesn't mean that you or I should be killed.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A fetus isn’t a person. Equating the time is ignoring a fetus can’t survive outside the womb.

I don’t want anyone telling me what I can and can’t do with my body. As such I respect the rights of others to do as they please.

@wintermute_oregon I think we both support human rights, where we differ is when it comes to what is and isn't a human being

*Civil War flashbacks lol*

There's no good argument for why a fetus isn't a person that doesn't fall into either ableism or ageism, which can potentially justify killing people who have already been born. There's a reason you didn't really try to make one here.

Only mental gymnastics can justify abortion.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And there lies the actual problem. Is a fetus a person or not?

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@Blamemeta Yes. A person is a living human being. Fetuses count.

[–] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Can they survive outside the womb? If the answer is no, they’re parasites, not human beings.

Sounds heartless but when it comes to the wellbeing of the mother or a parasitic clump that does not yet think or feel, the priority of care should be on the mother. Especially when her life is in danger or she cannot guarantee a good life for the child.

You may disagree, I don’t care.