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Anything good?

Then all of them. They are human beings, not black holes of pure evil.

Mark Cuban is a bit of a wall street asshole, but he’s created a drug company to slash the prices of generic drugs for Americans: https://www.npr.org/2022/01/24/1075344246/mark-cuban-pharmacy#:~:text=Billionaire%20investor%20and%20Dallas%20Mavericks,of%20its%20online%20pharmacy%20Wednesday.

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's pretty easy to come up with some things billionaires have done that are good. Bill Gates funding cures and prevention of diseases in the third world is one that comes to mind.

Now, if we're talking about finding an example of a billionaire whose life is on balance a good thing for humanity...that's pretty much impossible.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago

Good acts do not make a good person. Plenty of billionaires have done good things, but they don't even come close to outweighing the bad.

[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A single good thing that a single billionaire has done? The Gates foundation fighting malaria. I think that's good.

[–] Flumsy@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bill Gates. (Has donated money to charity and founded one himself).

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has donated money to his own charoty to aviod taxes and then did donations to manipulate world politics for his own agenda

There, FTFY

[–] Flumsy@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

He donated money before having founded his charity.

[–] stiephel@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Some of them have died already. That is good.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago

The submarine dude that got rid of a few more in one go?

[–] hruzgar@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Elon Musk. I know you guys hate him somehow but. HE DID build reusable rockets. HE DID build electric cars. HE DID restore Free Speech even though you guys somehow don't agree with that because people now can say anything they want and you can't live in your own little bubble without any criticism anymore (on twitter). And that's not what left wingers want lol.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon Musk

Popularized electric cars, funded the design for re-usable space rockets and gave people on the rural areas aswell as Ukrainian soldiers internet access.

The flood of downvotes now demonstrates how all this is ignored because people hate him nevertheless.

[–] cedeho@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, that's because it is similar to saying "Yeah, but not everything Adolf Hitler has done was bad!".

[–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Except it's not, because he didn't wage war and kill millions of people. I guess being an edgelord douche is the same as being Hitler these days though.

[–] cedeho@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did not say he is being Hitler. He is just listing some positive aspects and wonders why he gets down voted. It's just the same procedure, not the a comparison of Musk to Hitler. Both have fanboys and they just have to deal with the public opinion of the guy. It's not really a surprise about the downvotes, right?

[–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't talking about the downvotes. I was talking about your analogy, which I still don't understand.

[–] cedeho@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Ok so that dude says that musk did positive things (which is debatable but that's not the point). People vote him down and he is pissed of by this. So he brings that ppl will downvote him, because people generally dislike Elon Musk anyway.

As Germany had to deal with the Nazis a lot of people were subjected to massive propaganda as the Nazis basically controlled all the public information sphere. So what happened was that many/some people read in the newspapers about positive aspects of the Nazi/Hitler rule and they believed.

They later learned (when the 3rd Reich collapsed and the war ended) what a mess the Nazis left behind with millions of deaths and eradicated families. Many people still of course knew what happened but we're subject to repression or just went along with it. Propaganda still leaves an impression especially considering that many young people back then grew up wrapped in dense propaganda.

Now the analogy is that there were probably positive aspects of the Nazi Regime for some people. Since after the war there is a stereotype about people in discussions about the time saying "yeah, but not everything was bad!". They might list things like that "Hitler" (the government) build Autobahns (which were invented earlier anyway) or hospitals or something else. Just like a government should care about its people. These people are correctly being punched in the face for saying this, as we all know that in the background the Nazis made half of Europe suffer from their ideology.

The punch in the face would be a downvote here, as Musk is not to be idolized as he is just a manchild with too much money and he does not care about humanity or humankind.