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[–] PostingInPublic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think the most important topic right now is confronting the climate change and the problems it is going to cause, on every level local, regional, national and international. This looming crisis is going to affect everything and everyone on an existential level, and requires every of these government levels, even every individual, to fucking work and to fucking stand together.

And now my compatriots elect AfD.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes but have you considered that brown people are to blame for all these things? And that they are also fictional lies by The Left (tm) to scare you away from the horrible brown people?

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Also, it's clearly way more important that we let Chinese Intelligence Operations in broad daylight tell our youths to vote for nazis to destabilize the regions rather than peacefully coexist and solve our problems. After all, how else will we get communism if not that? /s

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

The whole "Fascism is coming from china!" thing is a conspiracy theory though, isn't it? Private media in the west are owned by western private media, not by Chinese psyops, and the funding that right wing influencers get in social media isn't from China either. The problem doesn't come from outside, it's literally inside.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Climate change is literally on position 4 out of 5 for voters. People are absolute fucking morons and at this point I think we should just go extinct. This is ridiculous.

[–] cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

If you can't afford your bills you don't care about climate change.

Edit: I know, that climate change will only worsen your financial situation, but a lot of people don't see the long term effects on them and the economy.

[–] B0rax@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

What is the priority then? I guess the sensible option would be to tax the rich more, and fight for a better distribution of wealth, right?

But that is not at all what the blue and right parties are standing for, quite the contrary.

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Humanity can go extinct. We deserve it. I feel bad for all the animals we kill along with us.

[–] luckystarr@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

It's difficult to extinct us. If will take a thousand years of volcanoes, bad harvests, pandemics without vaccines, etc.

We're just so many now.

What's a lot faster is to wipe away the achievements of civilization, pushing us back into a state where starvation, disease and suffering are the norm and not the exception.

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everyone complaining about the right wing people should take another look at the +40 to 102 non aligned seats.

Those votes went to parties exploring interesting new directions instead of 1) evil or 2) boring old stuff.

[–] 7eter@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

afaik German AFD is now part of non aligned. That's 16 of those +40 seats.

[–] lulztard@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Where is Volt?

Edit: green

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure? I thought they were part of renew

[–] lulztard@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

They fucking switched after I checked! I'm not joking!

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

62 projected seats for nazis... great job citizens, great job -.-

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Afd result is mind boggling

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I blame it on the greens for not fielding Habeck as chancellor candidate. I'm probably going to be salty about that one for the next 40 years.

[–] wieson@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

That might have been a strategic mistake idk, but it's not as bad as the cxu and many more parties straight up copying nazi talking points and steering the discussion towards the afd and against the GrEeNs ~Β°oΒ°~

The newspapers are also to blame.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sadly you can blame it on FDP for blocking every single positive thing this government might have done.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

We could've had a Green-Red or at least Red-Green government is what I mean.

...but, no, the Greens said "there's no female chancellor candidate, there must be one, therefore we will field a politician who's at least two magnitudes less electable" -- and that after no less than 16 years of Merkel. As if anything had to be proven on that front. As if self-congratulatory symbol politics would ever have gotten us anywhere.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Greens and SPD never had a majority in any poll at the time and they weren't even close to it. Greens might have been stronger but probably SPD weaker in turn. We might have ended up with Jamaika in the end. Don't forget that a conservative anti-Habeck campaign would've also been possible. He had some unpopular positions back then, too, like giving weapons to Ukraine. What kind of insane warmonger amirite?

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[–] voodoocode@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

There are even more, included in Nonaligned. The German Nazis (afd 16 seats) were kicked out of ID

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

SIXTEEN!?

sorry, I gotta vomit.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Second strongest party in germany as a whole and strongest in east germany. Ahead of all member parties of our current government.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Thanks ~~Obama~~ Merz and Springer. Their constant Ampel bashing really fucked everything up.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The Ampel may have gained control over the government at the worst possible time. Everything is currently shit and people always blame the government, even though some of that is not under their control, which currently places blame on the only three important center-left parties. Thus people turn right.

[–] Luccus@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work.

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[–] Matumb0@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if we should call them Nazi, as they kicked out the German Nazis, as explained in other comments. Maybe call them nationalists or ultra nationalists?

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They kicked out the German Nazis because they celebrated the SS, which is a no-go for French Nazis. Doesn't make them less Nazi, just the French kind that doesn't like to be killed by German Nazis

[–] Matumb0@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But what is a Nazi? I thought someone who praises or follows the idea and ideology of Hitler Germany. So if someone says β€žah this sounds too much like hitler or what is closest followers would say, therefore I dislike itβ€œ can you then really call them a nazi? If someone think β€žthis is to Germanβ€œ can you be a nazi? After all Nazis where also German ultra nationalists, who think people who are not German are of less worthy. So since other nationalistic parties follow this ideology, but just replace Germany by their own country, I think Ultra nationalists is better fitting. You would also not say Japanese Nazis or Thailand Nazis. Or if you would say Argentinia Nazis, people who know should understand something very different.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's only Nationalsozialismus if it's from the Nationalsozialismusregion, otherwise it's just sparkling fascism

[–] Matumb0@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah never thought about this origin. So Nazi means basically someone who supports Socialistic Nationalism, no matter for which country? ! Did not think about this but it makes sense.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it's short for National Socialism which was just a rebranding of Fascism in Germany to get Workers on board. So I guess Fascism is the better term to use in any case but seriously, it's just different flavours of the same shit so I think it's a mood point to differentiate. They all support the same ideology and policies

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[–] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Putin absolutely loving this

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought the right would be more anti Putin

[–] wieson@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

Well you thought wrong. What even gave you that idea? Recent and older scandals have proven, that the authoritarians in Austria, Czechia and Germany (probably elsewhere too) are receiving money and orders from Putin. They're not even nationalists in that sense, they just love fascism. Even trump with all his "America first" bs loves Putin. All enemies of democracy will work together to dismantle it.

[–] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Young voters did this, ironically enough, according to BBC World News. Young people struggling to get jobs after graduation think that right wing parties will fix that.

So as older generations are trying not to hand-off a burning planet to the young, the young are signing up for a burning planet under some delusion that right wingers will get them jobs. Schools have apparently failed to teach kids that the jobs they get under conservative governance are shit jobs -- lousy pay and lousy benefits.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Nazi Party’s popularity increased in the early 1930s partly because of its pledge to do what no other political party had been able to accomplish: pull Germany out of the Great Depression and put Germans back to work.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

put Germans back to work

Well they weren't wrong ... :-/

[–] Vivarevo@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They did it by putting women out of work

[–] brainrein@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

Although that was definitely part of their ideology I'm not sure if they really did accomplish it. Do you have a source, would be an interesting read.

At least during the war more women than ever did/had to do paid work.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Look at all those parties! The American mind struggles to comprehend this.

[–] Norgur@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While I am all for laughing at the 'Muricans for making themselves out to be the prime democratic nation on the planet while having the choice between a conservative and an ultra-conservative party only, this time, we cannot indulge in this kind of thing to feel superior. We need to make sure we actually stay superior now, which… isn't a given anymore.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

'Haha you guys only have the choice between conservative and far-right'

only elects conservatives and far-right

-us europeans rn

[–] Iapar@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

That one hurts.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are the non-aligned a "party"that would rather not be named (on the right wing of things) or are they actually non aligned and would be better represented as being in the middle of this chart?

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Different fractions, some of them are not aligned yet because they are new. However, for the biggest groups: 17 MEPs are the German AfD that was kicked out of the right-most group for being too Nazi, 11 MEPs are Fidesz (Orban) which is right-wing and the list goes on, so for the most part the position is mostly correct.

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