this post was submitted on 25 May 2024
1 points (100.0% liked)

SneerClub

989 readers
3 users here now

Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The highlight for me is coming up with some weird pseudoscience justification for why it’s okay to hit your kids.

top 12 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] maol@awful.systems 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They bought this house and the one next door for $575,000; they allow their neighbours to live in the second house rent free, in exchange for childcare.

Seems normal !

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 1 points 6 months ago

This is part of a whole thing where the journalist keeps presenting their framing without question. Is it “allow their neighbours to live in the second house rent free, in exchange for childcare” or is it “they have unpaid live-in nannies in a staff apartment”? Do they “give everything they can spare to charity” or are they landlords who own property they don’t live in? Is she wearing a corset and chemise from etsy because it’s practical, or because these weirdos have put on staged cosplay performances for every journalist who’s ever interviewed them, and you’re no exception?

[–] maol@awful.systems 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow, these people have not planned anything at all. They're going to homeschool all 7+ kids? And go into politics, a job that infamously has long, unsociable hours?

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No, they're counting on not spending time with their children. Their worldview is all about populating, not educating.

In fact, if you pester any of these people how they would plan to educate all these millions of new children you'll quickly find out that either:

  • That is actually not planned for at all (hand waving).
  • They actually only want certain (White people of means) to be having lots of kids.
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

some weird pseudoscience justification for why it’s okay to hit your kids.

It is to me so weird how often this comes up. A big plot point in starship troopers (the book) was that due to not hitting kids (and a vague handwave at criminals but mostly kids) western democracies fell for example.

Now I wonder how the NRx with their pro corporal punishment stance (which iirc Scott liked) feel about hitting kids.

Im also annoyed at how much words are written about the Collins. Stop promoting these doofuses. (They have come up in sneerclub before) (Late edit: She said she was really unsettled by this interview on twitter Sorry to hear you stared into the abyss Jenny, and I didn't mean this as a personal attack towards you (not that you will read this but yeah))

E: a thing I was wondering about, with the pronatalist technofetishists, who say that both we will all die out by lack of births as old people starve, and who fetishize AGI and robot labour causing a post scarcity world, that seems contradictory, I wonder how the Rationalists deal with this contradiction.

[–] mpk@awful.systems 1 points 6 months ago

Im also annoyed at how much words are written about the Collins. Stop promoting these doofuses. (They have come up in sneerclub before)

Apologies. First time poster, all that stuff.

The corporal punishment thing is a weirdly Anglophone obsession -- assaulting (sorry, "smacking") your kids has been a crime here since 1977 and the kids seem to be alright as well as having the bonus of being less likely to have grown up surrounded by violence and the threat of violence. In 7 years here I've seen exactly one person hit a child in public (looked a lot like a visiting grandma from elsewhere) and it came as a real shock. The more the Collins types (and, of course, fundie types) try to justify this as "normal" the less normal it appears to everyone else.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Malcolm and Simone Collins with their children – Octavian George, four, Torsten Savage, two, and Titan Invictus, one – at home in Pennsylvania.

bye

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

they definitely missed out on naming two of the daughers ursa minor maior and ursa maior minor.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Their next kid will be named Ultima Thule, and they will claim very loudly that this is just because they are so big fans of astrology and that they never heard of the controversy regarding the name.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

jfk

Ultima Thule was a Swedish white nationalist band back in the day.

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

@gerikson The name predates the white nationalist band by *several centuries*. Per wiki: "In classical and medieval literature, ultima Thule (Latin "farthest Thule") acquired a metaphorical meaning of any distant place located beyond the "borders of the known world"."

I suspect they renamed the KBO Arrokoth precisely to avoid the unfortunate recent connotations of the name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule

[–] aio@awful.systems 1 points 6 months ago

and here i just assumed the name was original to ffxiv