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Reposting this since the original got deleted (except on the instances where it was federated in time) when my beehaw account was erased alongside a week worth of data a few months ago.
Came across the image and thought "why not post again?", I don't know if I still stand by the meme, but frankly I don't care...

I just want to schizopost

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I only do SVG 😎

[–] Pyroglyph@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I used to be in camp AVIF, but I've changed my tune to supporting JXL after running some of my own tests. The main things that caused me to change my mind were the better compression ratio, progressive loading, and lossless conversion from JPEG. Those last two in particular are very useful features which AVIF simply doesn't have an answer to.

AVIF is a video format masquerading as an image format, and while that's not a bad thing, it's definitely not as good as a purpose-built image format.

[–] user134450@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

JXL rocks! Its so sad that some browser vendors are seemingly trying to kill it. It has basically all the features you could want for a JPG replacement and also has a reference implementation that implemented all that stuff as free software and with good documentation without any patent bullshit attached.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I have mixed feeling here.

On one hand avif is a libre format.

On the other hand:

  1. Avif has MAJOR limitations for a long term use (i.e. 65.538x 65.538 max resolution among other things)
  2. JpegXL has REVERSIBLE in place conversion to and from jpeg. You can convert jpegs into jpegXLs and gain the size benefits. You can undo the change and convert jpegXLs back into original jpegs all losslessly.
  3. JpegXL has progressive loading which supports people on slower internet speeds. AVIF does not.

Like I want to like avif but it’s hard for it to compete here I think. It’s like cheering for Theora over x265 just because it’s libre. Ideologically yes it makes sense to do so but good god is x265 better than Theora. (Not saying Theora is a representative open video codec though) Just that JpegXL is that much better.

[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My internet is so bad that on some tests I've gotten ~1mb/s. It averages about 5mb/s, so progressive loading is important for me.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Look at this guy flexing his internet speed. I have 4G because despite fiber being less than 300m away they won't bring it. Am near a freaking Olympic stadium so you my think I'd have the best internet but nope, it gets as slow as 32kb/s and even lower. I had times where images gradually load like it's the 90s again and even sites telling me am not connected/going offline mode randomly. I think i need to also mention websites never loading or taking literal minutes to do so.

[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You wear the crown of the shitty internet king

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As the king, i declare that all images must be jpegxl and videos must be x265 with variable resolutions available. Seriously, why some images are so big ? Not compressing them is the most wasteful thing ever.

[–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Videos should be AV1

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Completely forgot AV1. Decree changed : it's AV1 now.

[–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'd also like to add that all lossy audio must be Opus (or codec 2)

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

I'd use opus for live audio and low bitrate content e.g. audiobooks. For music ogg vorbis. But probably opus can do that as well and even better.

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why not just save raw pixel data, it couldn't get more open source and free.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, and then you compress the bitmap with zstd...
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[–] 30p87@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Exactly. Why not just compress all images with standard file compression algorithms. But which algorithm should we use? .tar.gz of course, nothing could go wrong. /s

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

https://jpegxl.info/why-jxl.html