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Holy shit. Managed to never run into them due to sponsorblock but the ways mega corps find ways to extract money out of everyone never ceases to amaze

I must have been living under a rock/a different kind of terminally online, because I had only ever heard of Honey through Dan Olson's riposte to Doug Walker's The Wall, which describes Doug Walker delivering "an uncomfortably over-acted ad for online data harvesting scam Honey" (35:43).

When I was young I knew people who installed those 'get money for moving your mouse' things (this was a thing around 2000, prob combined with a 'get paid to use your computer' scam. I'm not sure if anybody even remembers this), and they never got a dime. So I always mentally ignore these things as scams. 'it is just free money' is quite the red flag.

Minor gripe with the video 'if they product is free you are likely the product' isn't true imho. You are always also the product, unless they explicitly go out of their way to make it clear you are not the product (and even then you cannot be totally sure). You can't pay your way out of the rot economy. In fact, as you are now a person who spends money, I'd think the value of your data actually goes up. A database filled with data of users who never spend a dime online seems like it would be almost useless to me.

Making money via stealing commissions from affiliate links, tbf, wasn't the business model I was suspecting from Honey. I always thought they were scamming but I thought it was going to be from selling your browsing data or something similar. Then again, they still might do that.

Wow, I’ve been saying for years that this extension is shady as fuck. Nice to see that it’s getting some attention.

I didn’t expect it to steal affiliate cookies, but that they let you control which codes it “finds” isn’t even a secret, and I thought people know this. But every time I mentioned this on Reddit I was downvoted and called a liar.

As someone who's never even considered interacting with any part of this whole system, this is really funny honestly. It's like a matryoshka of shady business practices.

I swear to god there was a video I watched about this years ago that already talked about how they don't give you the best coupons and that they hijack affiliate links. I couldn't have made that up in my head.

The most surprising thing to me was that they're owned by PayPal? How can you have any credibility left when you're owned by PayPal, wtf, that should've been the end of them. Oh, no shit, a service owned by PAYPAL is shady and not above-board?? No way man, those paragons of user centrism, PAY-fucking-PAL.

They have enough money to make it complex, no matter how simple the underlying issue.

The ARC scores don't matter too much to me at 3k a problem. Like the original goal of the prize had a compute limit. You can't break that rule and then claim victory ( I mean I guess you can, but like not everyone is gonna be as wowed as xitter randos, ensemble methods were already hitting 80% + acc to francois )

And unfortunately, with Frontier math, the lack of transparency w.r.t. which problems were solved and how they were solved makes it frustrating as hell to me, as someone who actually would like to see a super math robot. According to the senior math advisor to the people who created the data set, iirc 40% solved problems were in the easiest category / 50% in the second tier category and 10% were in the "hard" tier, but he said that he looked at the solutions and that they looked like mostly being solved 'heuristically' instead of plopping out any 'new' insights.

Again, none of this is good science, just pure shock and awe. I've heard rumors that OAI is hiring strong competition style mathematicians to supervise the reinforcement learning for these types of problems and if they are letting O3 take the test, then how the hell does that not leak the problem set? Like now the whole test is compromised now right? Since this behemoth uses enough electricity to power a city block, theres no way they would be able to run it locally. Now OAI can literally pay their peeps to solve the rest and surprise surprise O3++ will hit 80%

OTOH, with code forces scores and math scores this high, I can now put on my LW cap and say this model has 2 trillion IQ, so why hasn't it exterminated me and my family yet like big Yud promised? It's almost as if there is no little creature inside trying to take over the world or something.

If you release the test set, all models magically jump to 87.3% accuracy.

full service plagiarism! bet you we'll see whiteglove variant of it next

I want someone to take this and run it in a self-feeding loop, I want to see what the limit supremum of AI Imagery looks like