(Hope that sounds convincing, cause hell if I know)
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I don't know about you, but O'Brien would certainly know.
Of course he does. He just doesn't want her knowing.
Huh. A lot of the Keiko/ O'Brien squabble episodes of DS9 are going to be easier to watch, with that idea in place. He's not divorcing or fixing his marriage, because he can simply outlive her and do better next time.
She's more like a pet to him
That's kind of the premise of the John Scalzi book "Old Man's War". In the book, they take elderly people (aka Wise people), and put their minds/memories into young fit bodies. This, in theory, creates soldiers who are both Wise, and Young/Fit.
Thanks for the new reading suggestion!
John Scalzi is an amazing author. You'll love it. Another good one by him is The Dispatcher. There's even an audiobook of this narrated by Zachary Quinto
Indeed. And let's not forget "The Kaiju Preservation Society", and "Red Shirts"!
Is it a copy or are the molecules sent?
I believe the molecules are sent.
What's the difference between any two water molecules?
Energy
Kinetic energy, or woo-woo "energy?"
for example, as long as they are not the exact same temperature their energy levels differ
I don't accept the premise -- the pattern is read on transport, yes? Rather than a fixed record of one's composition. Therefore, the only aging you won't be doing is for the duration of the transport process itself. Chump change.
They regularly allude to the idea of "pattern buffers" that hold on to a copy of you for as long as the plot requires.
Sure, but I don't think those are used as a matter of standard practice. The idea of some immutable, archival pattern being used for each trip doesn't track.
I thought you were read into the buffer until your pattern was wholly scanned and then replicated onto the target from it
I assume there's some in universe reason why they can't / don't keep copies of the teleportation data, otherwise everyone would be effectively indestructible
"Oh no the captain got eaten by a space tiger"
"No problem, I'll teleport a backup from an hour ago, he'll be there in 5 minutes"
If you'd start this game, it's hard to end it. Immortality, swarms of clones created just for labor, identity steal, and worse of all – people would grow negligent and the series would lose any stakes.
I think that at some point everyone agreed that the cycle of life is a core of what makes us humanoids and pushes us to strive for self-improvement.
It also prevents societal degradation, because immortality goes hand in hand with tyranny and lack of meaningful natural change.
the series would lose any stakes.
That's the only real reason
There are multiple answers, with different degrees of truth
The patterns aren't (typically) stored long term, something implied about transporter buffers seems to indicate they can hold incredible amounts of data that starts to degrade very quickly. New patterns are taken each time they transport AFAIK.
But, instead maybe that "cell damage" is just part of the details you get when you retain enough pattern detail to include peoples recent memories.
But, instead maybe the actors age in real life and keeping track of making them look perpetually youthful with makeup would be really hard so whatever the excuse is it's just an excuse.
something implied about transporter buffers seems to indicate they can hold incredible amounts of data that starts to degrade very quickly
Exactly. I always understood the difference between replicators and transporters to be the level of detail in the scan. The replicators don't need as much detail to make a convincing steak or a cup of tea. So they can store those scans at a much lower resolution and have a full, permanent library.
The transporters need an immense amount of detail to perfectly store your pattern, to avoid messing with your brain chemistry and causing transporter psychosis. It's too much data to keep on hand for every crew member.
Voyager kept a whole group of pilgrims in their buffer for weeks on end.
This happens in the episode where everyone prematurely ages, and they are sent through the transporter to make them their "normal" ages. There's no reason given why they couldn't do that all the time.
Even more relevant there was that episode where a transporter accident turns Picard, Guinan, Ro and Kiko into twelve year olds and nobody points out they just discovered transporter induced immortality.
What really gets me about that episode is all of the effected characters immediately want to return to their normal age and nobody says "Hold up, I'm very okay with a couple extra decades of life" or centuries in Guinans case I suppose.
Especially Picard who, you know, has the health thing that accelerates with age or whatever