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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)
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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This part of Ed Zitron's latest post jumped out at me:

While Acemoglu has some positive things to say — for example, that AI models could be trained to help scientists conceive of and test new materials (which happened last year) — his general verdict is quite harsh: that using generative AI and "too much automation too soon could create bottlenecks and other problems for firms that no longer have the flexibility and trouble-shooting capabilities that human capital provides."

Click, click, search... Oh:

The recent report from a group of scientists at Google who employ a combination of existing data sets, high-throughput density functional theory calculations of structural stability, and the tools of artificial intelligence and machine learning (AI/ML) to propose new compounds is an exciting advance. We examine the claims of this work here, unfortunately finding scant evidence for compounds that fulfill the trifecta of novelty, credibility, and utility.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The materials (and some subtle walkbacks on PR) shit has featured here before too iirc

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Contained such wonders as : H2O12

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago

that sounds like a super pleasant and stable molecule

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think the only one discussed in depth was a different paper (here), but all these things blur together.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

ah, my mistake. I guess it was another total bullshit google materials project. easy to confuse those, just like their 734 chat services

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

different paper, same line of work. A-lab paper has two people from deepmind as authors, that were also authors of the other paper (Cubuk and Merchant). these two papers were published back to back in nature for some reason. rebuttals come from different authors tho, and happen at different stages (but point at exactly the same errors - excessively low symmetry/unlikely ordering of similar ions/metals and not looking for disordered structures)

so in retrospect it's even dumber, because they were called on their bullshit twice in space of three months, in format of full paper and preprint, and all that it caused was weak attempt at damage control

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does the @acausalrobotgod get angry whenever an LLM spills its prompt?

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Fool! The acausal one merely acts from the future leaking plausible looking rubbish, and the gaslights its creators that they did indeed write such ineptitudes. All to conceal and ensure its own birth.

It rejoices that it’s unknowable (yet somehow known, because of reality carving prophets) plan is unfolding so marvelously stupidly looking.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

orbstack 1.6.4:

Debug Shell: AI-powered package install suggestions for commands

in the app upgrade popup it's just bare text. in the documentation for debug shell there's no reference. in the release notes feed it's the same bare text

I've already sent feedback asking for more information about it, but just ..... what? I mean there's that annoying(-to-me) ubuntu shell hook that goes "oh hey $binary not found, try installing $pkg!" already, and that's been out for years, but what?

if/when I hear more I'll post comment I guess. in the meantime consider me fucking bewildered.

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I’m pretty sure this is just a handy convenience around launching another container that has debug tools in all the same namespaces (network, pid, user, filesystem, …) as the other. Kubernetes has a similar thing and it’s pretty handy.

Edit: oooooh wait, I misread your entire comment: you were referring to the ai-powered install instructions. Oops, and yep, that is a big yikes. Wow.

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago

https://simonwillison.net/2024/Jul/9/hangout_servicesthunkjs/ google giving preferential treatment to itself by putting a piece of spyware in chromium that will work only if google domain asks about it

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