this post was submitted on 12 Apr 2024
1 points (100.0% liked)

Privacy

31182 readers
512 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

Chat rooms

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I saw this on infinity for Reddit earlier, I don't know if there's a workaround for this or not.

top 8 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

the new google massive surveillance apparatus is ready to be deployed

[–] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They talk as if they're protecting our privacy when it's really a global surveillance net. The spin doctoring is insane.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Friendly reminder that Bluetooth has a larger network stack than Wi-Fi. Much more code, much larger available attack base. There have been many numerous Bluetooth vulnerabilities that allow remote code execution or theft of files.

This is truly becoming a surveillance state, in no way that can be debated. That want to be able to access everyone's innermost thoughts (texts, notes, recordings, calendars, contacts, photos, you get it) without any chance of someone being able to protect against it.

Reminder that Google was the 2nd or 3rd company to commit to NSA's PRISM program of feeding American's data for future analysis.

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Didn't iPhone been doing it for years so you can still track your lost phone even if it's turned off?

But this is Android, I'm sure there'll be work around if you don't want it. Personally I think it could be helpful.

[–] EunieIsTheBus@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

I'm sure there'll be work around if you don't want it.

Take the battery out of the phone. No battery no energy to run bluetooth

[–] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Can someone explain where the code for this will be located (aosp, gsf)? How can I make sure that it will never ever be activated? What Graphene's response? etc

[–] HelloHotel@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

it looks like its going to be a hardware feature. if the main CPU is off, it implies the radio circuitry and its CPU (the BBM) are still powered. give google this at least, the special new Bluetooth API will be accessible to whatever OS is alive and awake to send commands (even if I don't trust that "off" means "off"). the fact that its using encryption (that's too complicated to be made out of Integrated Circut logic) means its likely another software feature added to the BBM co-processor (it handles all radio tasks on the phone). this all but confirms the BBM (at least going forward) will still get power, be awake and have access to the (transmit (TX) and reseave (RX) functions of the) radios even when everything else is properly off.

EDIT: or it could be an abuse of a generic BLE beacon mechanism that's "just there for whatever the consumer would need it for". but if they are doing proprietary encryption like they claim, that's not really possible without updating the BBM's software to add another feature.

[–] DictatorGator@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

We could wait for the implementation from the GrapheneOS team ! I'm pretty sure that they would implement it in a way that would be safe for the user.