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[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

for the longest time, i did know that game theory did not have anything to do with “games” and that it is somehow connected to the prisoners dilemma, but the concept as such wasn’t very clear to me. If you are like my former me, take 30 minutes out of your day and visit https://ncase.me/trust/ to learn and play around with game theory; it’s a great webpage and it’s pretty good fun all around.

[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

That page is very well done and interesting, thanks for sharing!

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Thank you for sharing the link. That webpage is amazing!

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[–] AnAustralianPhotographer@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Theoretically, will a collision cause a breach of the radioactive material that's in the box with my cat? Asking for a friend.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

If cat can witness the event, then Yes or No but not both.

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[–] _bcron@midwest.social 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The outcome from both levers pulled is so steep that it really makes no sense to pull the lever

[–] owsei@programming.dev 27 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

That's why they won't pull the lever, and that's why you should.

[–] _bcron@midwest.social 7 points 10 hours ago

They'll be thinking the same thing tho and if there is a greater than 20% chance of them pulling the lever it'd be worse in terms of losing family members than not pulling at all.

But in terms of overall death, not pulling the lever is 1 or 4, and pulling the lever is 4 or 13

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[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 40 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Do nothing that way you don't get to jail for murder. All the pressure goes to the other guy. Sue the railway company, guy who pulled the lever and the creator. Another is find a way not to reach to that point.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like you're not internalizing that this is a thought experiment.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

This is the dumbest thought experiment I've ever seen.

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[–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Also, it's too late to pull the lever, you'll just provoke a crush.

Lemmy Shitpost-22867873~2

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[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 58 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

This isn't philosophy anymore, it's just game theory

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 37 points 15 hours ago

it's interdisciplinary.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -5 points 5 hours ago

Not even. Game Theory is supposed to take a lot of stuff into account. Boiling it down to this is insulting and a way to paint situations like proxy wars as immoral.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

por qué no los dos

[–] elidoz@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

holy prisoner dilemma!

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 46 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Unlike the classic prisoners dilemma, this isn't a nash equilibrium. When I know that the other person pulls their switch, I'd improve my outcome by not pulling mine. Compare to the prisoners dilemma, where not snitching when the other side snitches earns you five years in prison.

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[–] chtk@feddit.nl 86 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

wow what an excellent day in the neighbourhood

i sure hope I won't be faced with an ethical dilemma in the very near future

oh rats it's the trolley problem

[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago

This was super funny, this person has a great career ahead of her. Very Tim and Eric style obscure indie comedy, I loved it.

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 113 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If these are tracks in the US then I just understaff the engineers and maintenance teams and the train derails before I have to make a decision, checkmate.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago

If these tracks are in the US, so I am. So I shoot the other guy with the gun(s) I usually carry around when I go out and then pull the lever.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 91 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This feels too high quality for a shit post.

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 38 points 20 hours ago

Gotta make sure your fiber intake is decent so you get good quality shit like this

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yell to the guy on the other side that I'm going to pull the lever, so he'd better not.

Then let it go because that both maximizes global utility and poses the lowest risk of the worst case scenario.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

"WHAT? I CANT HEAR YOU THE TRAIN IS TOO LOUD!" pulls lever

[–] tetris11@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

OOOHHHHH
WHO LIVES IN A PINEAPPLE UNDER THE SEA

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 46 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Which relative is on the track and which in the trolley?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Your hot cousin is on the track. What would you do?

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Don't pull the lever, then there's three thirds of hot cousin to go around regardless of the other person's decision. Philosophy is easy.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

To quote something I made up and say all the time, “It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose.”

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

nice. with such wisdom you should have been a captain or something.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

I say "you can do this three different ways and still be wrong."

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago

For some people, this is a problem. For others, this is a solution.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

According to transit and transport regulation, such scenario would be impossible

You pull the lever, then pew pew pew the other person near the lever.

Boom.

Did I solve it?

Where's my prize?

Wait a minute, gotta shoot everyone else related too. Don't want to face any revenge.

Automatic Weaponry goes brrrr

No witnesses

Okay I saved 1 of my loved ones.

Bingo?

Now theres only one color of people.

Wait am I a racist?

[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Jokes on you, No loved ones, so who cares if you pull the lever or not, go have a frothy instead.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like your typical game theory problem.

Not pulling the lever: Worst case: Your loved ones dies Best case: None

Pulling the lever: Worst case: Your loved ones dies Best case: Your loved ones survives

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Worst case for pulling the lever is 5 loved ones die and so do 8 strangers.

Its stated that when not pulling the lever the loved ones on the cart to survive (with ptsd).

Highest risk/best reward vs No risk/minimal loss.

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