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[–] 4grams@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I’ve always thought the least manly quality you can have is caring about how manly you are.

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 hours ago

I thought "feeling like a man" meant eating a lot of meat and losing money on sports betting.

Idk I don't do traditional man things.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

From somebody named "geekandmisandry".

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

That just shows you how impartial they are to the whole thing

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Or maybe we are just sick and tired of fighting the world and don’t want that kind of drama at home with our partner.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Is this a real thing? I don't believe I've ever encountered this. I suspect they're actually being demeaning to men in general, or men who don't fit their idea of masculinity. I've encountered people like that. Though the opposite is more common (men, and women, demeaning women who don't fit their idea of what a woman should be like, or just demeaning women in general).

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I also have never encountered this, although i didn't reach the same conclusion (or any conclusion apart from this is rare or not a thing).

Now im thinking about it you're probably right

[–] Zacryon 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Every man is by definition a man and feels like one.

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

i wish that were true

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

This whole “like a man” thing sounds to me like an extension of the toxic cultural BS where “men” are not just humans with emotions and needs like every other human. It reeks of men who are too scared or ignorant to be self-aware and figure out what life really means to them, and thus they need the people around them (especially the partners) to play along in their power/masculinity fantasy.

What a man needs is to realize he’s just another human, and that for humans happiness and fulfillment can ultimately only come from within. Relationships with others are crucial, and you might even need some medication to get your brain chemistry unfucked, but neither of those are independently going to make you happy with yourself and “feel like a man.”

“A man” can refer to roughly half the adult population. It’s not exactly an exclusive club. Why not leave gender out if it and try to be “a good person” and see where that gets you?

Having the people around you walking on eggshells to keep your manly ego intact, whether it’s out of fear or pity, is the exact opposite of what a good person should strive for. What if the people around you instead trust you, feel safe with you, laugh with you, and are better off with you in their lives?

Source: Am man. Went through some stuff. Figured some things out. Made some things better. Have wife and child who enjoy life.

[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

A wife would know exactly what it means and how to do this.

[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Mine puts up with my dad jokes and tell me I look handsome when Im all gross and covered in dirt after a long day working outside. That's more than enough for me.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago

When I come in sore and cold from shoveling the latest buttload of snow and she tells the kids to go cuddle daddy and warm me up? Yeah that makes me feel pretty good.

[–] Saleh 5 points 3 hours ago

Contrary to what some people claim, a lot of women do find men attractive that can get themselves dirty and are crafty. That is, if it doesn't come with manners like a cavemen.

[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 6 points 4 hours ago

we are simple beings.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Two people who care about each other will provide all forms of validation and support that someone needs. This is kind of the point of being in a relationship, a partner who makes you feel like [insert thing you want to feel like] when you need it, and you give that validation back to them as they require it.

We seem to have gone severely off-course when we started expecting a world full of uncaring strangers to give us all kinds of validation for things.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Empowerment is for women only. Noted.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 35 minutes ago

The source of women's empowerment isn't men pretending that women are strong. It's women who changed.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

How are you empowered by "feeling like a man"? What does that even mean?

Why would it matter what it means? There is someone asking for validation and is ridiculed for it.

[–] i_am_tired_boss@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

What is a man?! Nothing but a miserable pile of secrets. But enough talk... Have at you!

https://youtu.be/QfJE5Oin1Ag

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