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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Honoring cultural traditions - the super versatile Swiss Army Talking Point that works equally well for the good guys or the bad guys!

[–] wes7ley@real.lemmy.fan 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Having grown up in evangelical Christianity, I don’t quite understand the attack on liberals here?

Zionism is a major part for the conservative manifesto to create the New Jerusalem to bring forth the return of Jesus. Evangelicals view Jews as reluctant Christians yet to accept their king.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

It has been a political wedge issue used as a weapon by conservatives. Liberal buy-in to zionism is its primary support system.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Liberals support Israel because of Cold War propaganda labeling. That evolved into the good guys versus terrorism propaganda we have now, which blinded us to things like stealing land, the blockade, interfering in elections, and indefinite detainment without charges or trial. It was all hand waived because "terrorists". But in reality it was the only way left for them to try to defend their sovereignty.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

i wonder why libs never apply this logic for Indigenous people on Turtle Island 🤔

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Because Israel was always a colonialist project. The last one of a dead age. The people who like Israel think Thanksgiving was how settlers treated the Indigenous Americans.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 28 points 9 hours ago

Or, like, Palestinians.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago

They aren't arguing in good faith

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Are the libs even making this argument? I thought genocide was too spicy for them now

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 10 hours ago

Also they could have done some land reparations without stealing Palestinian land, if anyone gave a shit. Pretty sure one of the countries that lost the war had a place called Judenberg already, for example.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (4 children)

It's funny how Europeans didn't feel the needed to give any of their land to the Jews, even though they're responsible for the Holocaust.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Maybe because Britain had already mandated a Zionist quasi-state (that would eventually become modern day Israel) and Zionist Jews were already migrating there even before the Holocaust? Or are we simply ignoring that part of history?

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Actually, allot of countries let some lands for jews, but they don't want it. They want specifically they holly land.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

What?!? This was a perfect opportunity to ~~get rid of Jews and Brown people at the same time~~ settle the promised land! Did you really expect the ~~racists~~ upstanding European leaders not to take it?

[–] strongarm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That brush you're using there is the wrong size

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Not really, Leopard isn't remembered like Hitler because Hitler's victims were European.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Every ~~Balkan~~ (edit:) European country: 🥸

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